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Ask HN: Is anyone working on “downloading” knowledge to the brain?

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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working on “downloading” knowledge to the brain?

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I have thought for a while now that VR would allow for this kind of training. You essentially control a large proportion of the input and can measure the output. We could start training human brains like we train neural networks - throw tonnes of data at them and then test what parts stick, then repeat until the training set is learned.

On a different note, the new Matrix really failed to captivate and imagine like the old movie series did.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working on “downloading” knowledge to the brain?

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's called "studying", which implies a form of "spaced repetition", but makes notions meaningful and "alive" by making them integrated in your "body of knowledge". To do differently - to just keep notions in a mental closet -, would be like memorizing a book: you have not read it. "Reading" - digesting information - and "memorizing" are not the same. To "study" you will have to use some sort of (often natural, impli…

With the exception of word lists for foreign language study (and to be honest, vocabulary is rarely my most important issue with foreign languages), I haven't found anything that benefits from studying flashcards. I know that flashcards were a big thing among students when I was in grade school and college (decades ago). I'm sure they helped students memorize pieces of information, but I'm not sure they helped studen…

mostly in schools there's no understanding whatsoever: to the contrary, students have to REMEMBER what the teacher provided as a valid understanding.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working on “downloading” knowledge to the brain?

#73
Two examples of skills you can quickly obtain are speed-reading and fast silent running. And actually speed-reading is most similar to The Matrix knowledge download. The mind is pretty impressive at character recognition, we just don't use the whole potential. Also muscular programming allows defining the angle, speed, and strength/flexibilty sequence of each feet to run silently at full speed.

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This reminded me of Sleep Learning. This topic has the oddest Wikipedia page [0]. You would expect this topic to have research, historical background and other sections. But 80% of that page is just references to fictional literature. 0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep-learning

I remember reading an article about this years ago that stacked evidence against this practice.

Slightly more useful might be lucid dreaming. I can imagine that a stable lucid dream would be great for knowledge synthesis.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working on “downloading” knowledge to the brain?

#75

We have a high bandwidth input already known as eyes and ears

They deal with pretty noisy mediums though. How much of the input is actually transformed into what we perceive as relevant knowledge and stored long-term?

Better question is how important will noise end up being in the formation of valuable outputs.

Nothing worse than a system not sufficient trained to deal with high noise environments

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working on “downloading” knowledge to the brain?

#76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With the exception of word lists for foreign language study (and to be honest, vocabulary is rarely my most important issue with foreign languages), I haven't found anything that benefits from studying flashcards. I know that flashcards were a big thing among students when I was in grade school and college (decades ago). I'm sure they helped students memorize pieces of information, but I'm not sure they helped studen…

mostly in schools there's no understanding whatsoever: to the contrary, students have to REMEMBER what the teacher provided as a valid understanding.

Fortunately, no, not necessarily: not in the schools I have been to. In the schools of my youth, you had to understand the taught, not just remember it. Students were evaluated for how well they had processed the information, for their mastery in its "handling".

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post #22

Not a word about the security implications? The easiest reply would be "They are called books", or whatever container and format for information - and already there issues and risks are more than just possible, mitigated by filters one is trained to develop. The more acquisition of information takes the aspect of an "injection", a whole world of issues open. From "I read War and Peace in one hour: it was about Russia…

I would think security wise it would be like medication. Everything from highly trusted,tested and expensive sources to the free for all of the black market. I would suspect you are right though that the idea of a knowledge injection is absurd. If an athlete takes steroids they are injecting strength in one sense but not like a movie that they take the injection and are superman 5 minutes later. Surely, there are bio…

Except you can't do mind control by intercepting someone's steroid supply.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working on “downloading” knowledge to the brain?

#80
Few years ago my manager gave me a magazine as a gift(the magazine might still be lying around somewhere in my room). The cover story of that magazine was this very topic. The magazine covered research done by a university in the US on copying and then downloading memory back in a mouse(the animal). The justification for this research was that "it will help patients who have suffered memory loss".
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