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Ask HN: What're some great cities to live for $2k USD per month?

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Re: Ask HN: What're some great cities to live for $2k USD per month?

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20 years ago, I lived in London for less than that, but you'd have to be pretty frugal now. Many smaller cities in the UK would be fine though.

If you're considering Bucharest I've heard good things about Budapest in terms of living costs and it's a nice place to visit. I also love Slovenia so Ljublijana may be an option and is also very close to Venice and Milan and the fantastic Julian alps

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Bratislava 2-bd start at around 500 EUR/month utilities included, but can go higher if you choose a good location and bigger apartment. For 600 EUR you should be able to find a solid one, with luxurious ones in good location starting at 750 EUR/month. Good internet speed, friendly people, european culture, quick flight or train ride to anywhere in Europe, pretty girls.

Will check out, thanks! Do you have any thoughts on Belgrade or Bucharest?

I lived in Belgrade for a few months with a Serbian friend. Absolutely loved the city and the people. Found it to be incredibly affordable with a great night life, especially if you're in your 20s and want to meet university girls.

Language wise, most people under 30 had some basic English, I spoke almost no Serbian at all but still managed to get by at stores and restaurants. Internet is cheap and widely available.

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Vienna. A great public transport system, fast-ish internet and classical culture. The budget would totally fit the lifestyle but not as cheap as Bucharest and Bratislava.

I really enjoyed Vienna last time I visited. I got the impression that fluent German would be necessary in order to live there. I'm totally into learning new languages, but fear that I wouldn't be able to learn German quick enough to settle in. What's your take on this?

It won’t be a problem if you don’t know German. Everybody is at least capable of basic English so you will almost never be able to not communicate with somebody. You can take your time with learning the German basics but you can also totally live there for 1-2 years without speaking German. Australian/Irish pubs are generally hosted by people with English as their mother tongue.

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I would recommend visiting and getting a short term accommodation near Roma Norte. There's a few peripheral areas around there that haven't had as much price inflation, but you'll want to identify them by physically being there as there's other closeby areas that you don't want to be in (Doctores). If you're willing to go a bit further south in the city (45-60 minutes from Condesa, depending on traffic), Coyoacan is…

> go east outside the city to a colonial style town like Valle de Bravo I didn't realize there are longer-term stays here. Would this be found via Aribnb or elsewhere? Also, how near would it be to food/coffee/groceries/etc?

Actually, it's west (not sure how I messed that up). Yes, it's a fully functioning town/city of ~60k people with all the major things you're used to (convenience stores, grocery stores, etc.), though you might need to go into Toluca or Mexico City if you're furniture shopping or something.

It's a common weekend and holiday destination for people from the city and there's some foreigners living there permanently, though the big draw for foreigners is the paragliding community.

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What does quick enough mean? How much of the language do you want to learn? As a native speaker I can’t comment on how hard it is to learn the language but working with people that are new to Germany here and there, some of them are amazingly fast at learning the language. Others don’t care too much so they need more time. From the outside it seems doable.

My thought is that if I only spend 1-2 years in a place, if it takes me a year or more to learn the language, I may be ready to leave by the time I've gotten a handle on it.

How fluent do you want to speak? I think you’ll manage to get by in German speaking places but learning the language isn’t easy. At least that’s what other people say, I grew up with it, for me things intuitively make sense somehow haha. As for me I’d go somewhere with better weather, a little closer to the equator I believe.

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My thought is that if I only spend 1-2 years in a place, if it takes me a year or more to learn the language, I may be ready to leave by the time I've gotten a handle on it.

How fluent do you want to speak? I think you’ll manage to get by in German speaking places but learning the language isn’t easy. At least that’s what other people say, I grew up with it, for me things intuitively make sense somehow haha. As for me I’d go somewhere with better weather, a little closer to the equator I believe.

I think my bar for learning a language is being able to fit in socially without being "that guy who only speaks English/broken [insert language]". I'm sure I could learn barebones German in a short while, but feeling shut out of social activity because I don't speak with fluency doesn't sound like a fun.

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> go east outside the city to a colonial style town like Valle de Bravo I didn't realize there are longer-term stays here. Would this be found via Aribnb or elsewhere? Also, how near would it be to food/coffee/groceries/etc?

Actually, it's west (not sure how I messed that up). Yes, it's a fully functioning town/city of ~60k people with all the major things you're used to (convenience stores, grocery stores, etc.), though you might need to go into Toluca or Mexico City if you're furniture shopping or something. It's a common weekend and holiday destination for people from the city and there's some foreigners living there permanently, thou…

Gotcha - this is helpful, thank you!

Re: Ask HN: What're some great cities to live for $2k USD per month?

#80
Valencia.

$2k USB means 1700€.

- Small studio 400-500€ (You can get a small old apartment for that too) - Electricity bill 70-80€, maybe less if you're alone and a little bit more if you use AC - Water bill 100€ every 3 months - Metro/Subway 40-50€ - Groceries 200-400€ depending on what you eat

Eating out is cheap unless you go to the highly touristic zones. No matter where you are you can find a restaurant where the menu is between 10 and 15€ with first and second course, drink, dessert and coffee.

Night life is awesome. Alcohol is cheap. No matter where you are in the city you'll be safe, the worst thing that could ever happen to you is to get robbed when you're not paying attention.

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