God it really pisses me off when they find great people for my team. Even worse is when a recruiter finds me a well paid job that I like. I hate those jerks. Wasting everyone's time with wanting to "talk on the phone", trying to clarify details about my "skills" and "experience" or "salary expectation", ugh such pointless questions - can't they just send emails, which I can slam the "delete" key on?
Ask HN: What things that tech recruiters do, annoy you the most as an engineer?
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Re: Ask HN: What things that tech recruiters do, annoy you the most as an engineer?
#72God it really pisses me off when they find great people for my team. Even worse is when a recruiter finds me a well paid job that I like. I hate those jerks. Wasting everyone's time with wanting to "talk on the phone", trying to clarify details about my "skills" and "experience" or "salary expectation", ugh such pointless questions - can't they just send emails, which I can slam the "delete" key on?
Skills and experience? Those are on the CV. Salary? That should flow in the other direction, from the hirer.
Re: Ask HN: What things that tech recruiters do, annoy you the most as an engineer?
#73There’s a lot of people in here complaining about various things recruiters do. Let me give a different perspective. For the first couple of years of my career, recruiters just ignored me. It was like I simply didn’t exist. I hadn’t studied computer science and didn’t work at a well known company. Meanwhile, my coworkers with CS degrees constantly complained about having to bat away recruiters offering them crazy mon…
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#74Sadly I think the biggest pain I've suffered is from recruiters calling and making every conversation a rambly/chatty/friendly call that doesn't actually give any details. I've been called by recruiters who won't name the company they're recruiting for, the salary range, and are incapable of actually describing the daily-expections beyond buzzwords. I've found the best approach for me is to google "sysadmin helsinki"…
They're not saying the company name because they don't want you going there directly and applying without them getting their hefty bonus
Re: Ask HN: What things that tech recruiters do, annoy you the most as an engineer?
#75Have you ever mentioned your first programs were written in C# then got .NET roles on your inbox forever?
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#77I despise the rare ones who dangle a job they do not actually have in order to get my information in their database.
These always seem to be the same ones who gaslight and neg: e.g. "We're looking for people who know what they're doing" and such. Not sure what they accomplish with that, but conversation is over.
That's comparatively rare, though. Most are just decent people, making a living connecting people who want a job with people wanting to hire.
Ghosting is annoying, but I've had good luck asking them in advance not to do that. "Tell me what's going on, even if it's nothing, or bad news"
However, I'm of a mind these days that full-time, salaried jobs are rarely the best option. Freelancing, bootstrapping, or founding are all usually better given today's market.
Finally, be unfailingly polite and kind to recruiters, and to everyone, really, even if they don't have anything you want, unless and until they give you a specific reason not to be (eg gaslight, neg). How you treat people is a reflection of your personal character. Be on the side of good.
Re: Ask HN: What things that tech recruiters do, annoy you the most as an engineer?
#78There’s a lot of people in here complaining about various things recruiters do. Let me give a different perspective. For the first couple of years of my career, recruiters just ignored me. It was like I simply didn’t exist. I hadn’t studied computer science and didn’t work at a well known company. Meanwhile, my coworkers with CS degrees constantly complained about having to bat away recruiters offering them crazy mon…
Re: Ask HN: What things that tech recruiters do, annoy you the most as an engineer?
#79Clearly not reading my resume and sending me a job that's obvious not a good fit even given a cursory glance.