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Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Post by sampl »

tty7 wrote: post #67
nooyurrsdey wrote: post #63

For some reason people seem to constant doubt Ruby-ists and Rails Devs. I completely get that other languages have huge benefits over Ruby. Golang being compiled or Java running anywhere, etc... And ruby is slow, totally understood. But if youre talking about getting a functioning webapp up and running quickly ... no way anyone is beating a Rails dev in setting one up. The piping and scaffolding are all built in and…

I looked into rails in some detail about a year ago, and I think it's the only pretty good solution for this I've come across—but there's a steep up front cost in learning/setup etc. (or so it seems).

Yeah, I never found Rails as easy to learn as others did. Maybe it’s because I was younger and less experienced than now.

Or maybe I’m dumb.

Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Post by georgecalm »

I’ve been happy with Dokku hosted on DigitalOcean with the Postgres plugin for persistance and the Grafana plugin for stats gathering (optimizing for validated learning). I have a base image of that on DO for new projects. (Also Dokku Postgres takes care of cron-based encrypted backups which it will happily store on DO Spaces; in case anything happens to your server) I use Node on the backend with a simple passport-based session cookie auth and the apollo GraphQL server for APIs. I use nuxt for isomorphic (progressive?) vue components along with the Apollo vue module to communicate with the GQL server.

Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Post by westoncb »

bazjones wrote: post #55

The quickest thing to develop in is normally what you know. I find django the most productive web framework for things that might take off (for purely static sites I use Hugo and serve the site from S3, and deploy it using cloudformation - a great combo that lets me bring up a landing page in an hour or so). It sounds like deployment is what you want to simplify. While there is extra overhead in learning to use docke…

This is a quite a bit in-line with my thinking. Probably best to go ahead and spend a little time figuring out Docker (and the best way of using it with some hosting service... I'll check out terraform).

Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Post by figgis »

PostOnce wrote: post #68
nooyurrsdey wrote: post #63

For some reason people seem to constant doubt Ruby-ists and Rails Devs. I completely get that other languages have huge benefits over Ruby. Golang being compiled or Java running anywhere, etc... And ruby is slow, totally understood. But if youre talking about getting a functioning webapp up and running quickly ... no way anyone is beating a Rails dev in setting one up. The piping and scaffolding are all built in and…

Are you aware that Flask exists for Python? I might take that bet about no one being able to go quicker than a Rails dev.

Agreed. Flask or Aiohttp + templating engine of choice + flask-login or aiohttp-security is extremely fast and simple.

Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Post by westoncb »

ireflect wrote: post #59

Here's my template: Backend in Go, hosted on Gitlab with CI to build it and create a docker image (also hosted at Gitlab). Server is a plain Debian server hosted on Digital Ocean, with some light configuration with Ansible. A single docker-compose.yml brings up the application along with any service dependencies. Generally I use nginx-proxy with its letsencrypt companion so I can multiplex several docker web services…

This sounds a lot like what I'm looking for. I haven't looked into Gitlab at all yet, so I'll to check them out.

Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

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Post by innomatics »

Django, Docker and AWS ECS and ELB.

Absolutely worth the effort to learn how to build a Docker image and put together bash scripts to push the image and update an ECS service. We have a base project which includes nginx and uwsgi set up to simply serve the Django app and static files on port 80.

Having an ECS Docker cluster with spare capacity greatly assists getting new projects up and running quickly, especially if we can run the test site under an existing domain managed in AWS. Then we can just add new rules on an existing ELB and piggy back on the SSL certificate.

With this workflow we spend the time getting a good image running locally (with local environments vars/secrets) and we know the deployment side is taken care of, and can be scaled if and when is needed. This also has the benefit of forcing dependencies and environments to be fully documented from the start (in the Dockerfile).

The next step, if the project gains traction is to move the Docker build/push/service update into CI space. We've moved away from ansible now largely, there's a use case for more complex setups for sure but am interested in K8 capabilities to help there.

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