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Ask HN: How much do you make at Facebook/Amazon/Apple/Netflix/Google/Microsoft?

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Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Facebook/Amazon/Apple/Netflix/Google/Microsoft?

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European tech salaries are famously lower than US salaries. Southern Europe is even worse. I was offered a role of Senior/Lead engineer (with over 10 years exp) for "maximum salary of 45k Euro". And was told by their recruiter that this is considered high for Spain.

I know, I live and work in UK and still the up to £50k in the company like Amazon sounds dirt low, I know devs working for DailyMail (!!) for ~£90k

I'd need to be paid a lot more than that to work for them.

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Yeah, the serious money's in contracting in London. You can make anywhere from 400-600 per day. Get yourself a solid year long stint somewhere & the pay will be £100k - £150k

If you contract in an Investment Bank in London, those day rates would be on the low side.

True. Got a friend who basically works as a contractor CTO. His day rate is around 2k. Which is insane.

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I think Google has principal engineers as well - a staff engineer at Google probably is equivalent to a principal engineer at most companies though.

For someone not working in tech, what is the difference between an engineer and a principal engineer?

principal engineer is when you want to give someone more salary but they dont wanna be a manager

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I think Google has principal engineers as well - a staff engineer at Google probably is equivalent to a principal engineer at most companies though.

For someone not working in tech, what is the difference between an engineer and a principal engineer?

The Principal has a very distinguished and widely-recognized track record of achievement.

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I think Google has principal engineers as well - a staff engineer at Google probably is equivalent to a principal engineer at most companies though.

For someone not working in tech, what is the difference between an engineer and a principal engineer?

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Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Facebook/Amazon/Apple/Netflix/Google/Microsoft?

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It is technically illegal to fire you for discussing this, at least in the US. I know at Google there's supposedly a big internal salary sharing doc started by Erica Baker, and she wasn't fired for it (although her manager was supposedly quite unhappy).

> It is technically illegal to fire you for discussing this, at least in the US. Funny, I know of American corporation which operates low cost center over here while paying 30-40% of American salaries and forbidding the employee from sharing its salary for 10 years (sic!) in the employment contract.

If in the US, it is illegal for them to have that in the employment contract and they could be sued for that. I'm not sure how it works if it's not operating in the US, but if it's a US company, might still apply. My company abides by all US laws because they're headquartered in US, but have offices worldwide.

According to this law: https://www.nlrb.gov/resources/national-labor-relations-act employees can talk about things that matter to them, salary being one of them. And the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) includes pay secrecy language in contracts as illegal, and even if you sign an NDA, it is still your right to talk about your salary.

The consequences for violation aren't usually very serious, so companies aren't too worried about violating the law, unfortunately. They usually have to provide back pay to the employee and/or offer the employee their job back (if they were fired). Obama signed an executive order that increased penalties for companies contracting with the government: they can lose their contract.

This law doesn't include contractors, ag workers, employees of federal, state, or local gvmt, or those employed by interstate rail and airline companies.

It does cover you if you aren't in a union.

Violations should be reported to the NLRB and they'll investigate it.

Source: https://www.npr.org/2014/04/13/301989789/pay-secrecy-policie... and https://www.govdocs.com/can-employees-discuss-pay-salaries/

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I think Google has principal engineers as well - a staff engineer at Google probably is equivalent to a principal engineer at most companies though.

For someone not working in tech, what is the difference between an engineer and a principal engineer?

It (staff) is a level, one past senior engineer.

The difference is that senior engineers do something resembling engineering. When not attending meetings, I turn coffee into emails and Google docs.

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