Salary questions should require a currency suggestion.
Indeed, please edit the survey so the data becomes more readable.
I edited, any other suggestion?
I will publish polished results when will end data gathering
Ask HN: How much do developers earn in Europe?
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Re: Ask HN: How much do developers earn in Europe?
#72It always bug me, when developers, people whose main task is passing different data to and fro, are unable to provide information in format that is unequivocal for recipient. Do you really, for example, in systems you create, store or send money data without currency information?
You are right, horrible mistake. Fixed now, sorry.
Re: Ask HN: How much do developers earn in Europe?
#73Is this going to be published somewhere? I wrote in the salary in the currency of my country which was probably not the intended thing to do.
I will polish results for having an overview, probably will publish it here. I made the mistake to not specify currency from the beginning, would you mind send me the correction to make? fvbenigni@gmail.com
Re: Ask HN: How much do developers earn in Europe?
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But generally the developer wage is very low in Europe compared with US(Bay area). Because it usually comes with built-in social security and nationwide health insurance. > AFAIK London have the highest salary among european countries, Nope. Scandinavia.
> Because it usually comes with built-in social security and nationwide health insurance. That's not the case. Health insurance plays very little role in this. I can go to a private doctor for peanuts. Salaries are low, because companies are "broke" and don't have million dollar funding and you can have a great lifestyle with fifth/tenth of a SV salary. > Nope. Scandinavia. Nope, Switzerland.
Switzerland is not EU.
Re: Ask HN: How much do developers earn in Europe?
#75I don't think you're going to get a great response as that's a lot of identifying information you're asking for. Country, Area (optional), years of experience, gross salary and extras is what you really want.
Lot of info are optional..Until now I am pretty happy with the number of responses
Re: Ask HN: How much do developers earn in Europe?
#76Can't open the doc because it's blocked by my employer. But generally the developer wage is very low in Europe compared with US(Bay area). AFAIK London have the highest salary among european countries, usually handed out by Investment banks and other financial service companies. In London a tier 1 bank's VP developer will typically get £90k-110k base, plus 15-40% bonus. If you work for a hedge fund, the base is typic…
> But generally the developer wage is very low in Europe compared with US(Bay area). Because it usually comes with built-in social security and nationwide health insurance. > AFAIK London have the highest salary among european countries, Nope. Scandinavia.
Nope. Scandinavia.
The answer depends very much if you're looking at median salary or 'peak' salary. It also matters if you're talking before or after taxes. Median pre-tax dev. salaries are almost certainly higher in Scandinavia (or at least in Norway and Denmark), but you'll never earn what some of the top devs in finance in London earn.
Re: Ask HN: How much do developers earn in Europe?
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But generally the developer wage is very low in Europe compared with US(Bay area). Because it usually comes with built-in social security and nationwide health insurance. > AFAIK London have the highest salary among european countries, Nope. Scandinavia.
so what are those numbers look like in Scandinavia
In Sweden ~50-55k eur. a year pre-tax is a good salary for a developer with a few years experience. Norway and Denmark pays a bit more.
Re: Ask HN: How much do developers earn in Europe?
#78On the currency debate: I'd always assume local currency. I doubt any of these are in USD, unless stated; the default, in this case, is EUR - or indicate.
This is what naively I thought when creating it. Anyway, now it's clear. My bad!
Re: Ask HN: How much do developers earn in Europe?
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Because it usually comes with built-in social security and nationwide health insurance. That's not the case. Health insurance plays very little role in this. I can go to a private doctor for peanuts. Salaries are low, because companies are "broke" and don't have million dollar funding and you can have a great lifestyle with fifth/tenth of a SV salary. > Nope. Scandinavia. Nope, Switzerland.
Switzerland is not EU.
I know that, but you wrote "among european countries" an Switzerland is definitely one of them. It doesn't really make a difference for EU citizens if Switzerland is in or out.
Re: Ask HN: How much do developers earn in Europe?
#80In many EU countries, seasoned developers become fre lancers. Achieving higher revenue is impossible otherwise.
True, but not everyone loves freelancing (I don't). There's a middle ground, which is full time remote work.