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Re: Ask HN: Do you keep a personal journal?

#71
Yes.

Very much. But my useful is mostly about personal stuff and once in a while revisit. Looking at things in retrospect. Sometimes I get something to learn, sometimes it's just fun or once in a while it makes me sad too.

I have been doing it on notebooks (paper journals; and not the fancy and famous ultra costly ones). Really. It's very recently that I started to put some entries on Android Journey app which are kinda too personal to leave in my daily diary which I don't lock in a box. So, I will recommend a paper notebook and pen. I am from India and I am always in the hunt for good and affordable notebooks and fountain pens - we don't have many in the former category. Anyone looking for something good here try Brahma Series (or Brahma Forces) notebooks - they sell Moleskine like notebooks (honestly paper quality is actually a lot better) minus Moleskine's marketing cost in its price. (disclaimer: nothing against Moleskine)

Not really. Some days I just write about something that happened. Or something I thought or just anything. Some days I skip. Somedays I just pen a poem or so (or something that I kinda thing are poems). A short story. Or a sketch (yeah, I make sure the notebook I get have good pages and works well with pencils, ballpoint pen and fountain pens - the latter being my favourite), a caricature, a schedule, sometimes card game score when I am travelling with my friends and we had a game, travel itinerary. I have found some pages where there's some math of splitting trip expenses among friends. Something from a book I am reading, or a film I watched, or something about it. I travel/backpack a lot and that's when my diary gets maximum attention. But these things don't happen very frequently and it's mostly the typical diary entries. So, it's my personal diary and I wrote it just because I like it. It it helps me in my development in some way then it's entirely coincidental and it wasn't the intention at all.

Yes, as explained above. It can just be anything.

Well, I don't think you could get something useful from my kind of journaling (I believe you are looking for journaling that is done from the productivity point of view and similar expectation; I maybe wrong though). Keep writing is all I would say. I have been writing since I was in class 6 - pretty much 20 years now. Yeah, frequency has gone down a lot since school. No doubt about it.

Re: Ask HN: Do you keep a personal journal?

#72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is your specific methodology? Or is that what you mean by your next answer? To answer both at once: the methodology used is specific to my goals. They're specified by me and probably only work with how I approach each topic. For example, my mathematical journals are rather structured. I move between branches over time but I tend to stay focused in a single area for quite some time working on problems, derivation…

> the methodology used is specific to my goals I strongly recommend this attitude. A tool off the shelf rarely fits the hand well; when the tool in question serves to help investigate the self, a prepackaged methodology poses the risk of shaping oneself to fit the tool, rather than the other way around.

You are right, of course, but it's easier said than done. The blank page is intimidating and frustrating, so structure is often the best way to get going. It brings to mind fitness trackers, actually.

Re: Ask HN: Do you keep a personal journal?

#73
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Yes. I tried to for many years with paper and pen. It never worked for me until I started using DayOne [0] on iOS and Mac. Simply superb design and one of my favorite pieces of software to use because it does (almost) exactly what I want it to . When I type, I'm able to render my thoughts directly into text, whereas when I write with a pen I have to think about the physical process of writing. I imagine I'm not the o…

Their site doesn't seem to have a lot of info about its features, but from the screenshots it doesn't seem to do much that the built-in Apple Notes doesn't do. Weather and geotagging are unique, of course, but I'm not sure those are worth $45 (for the iOS and macOS app together) to me. What in particular do you think DayOne offers that can't be offered by Notes on iOS or macOS?

IMHO nothing better really. The price hike is really surprising. No, this app really doesn't do anything special. But it seems there are people (and a lot of them) to whom this app appeals a lot and I am sure they find it useful and it works for them. I think the look and feel is very clean and gives a diary like experience maybe. But anyway, its Mac app cost just doesn't make sense to me at least.

One can try this - a full screen writer app like WriteRoom or CleanWriter (my favourite - just love the type writer sound) or iA Writer and write in simple text files and save in an encrypted folder and sync it with the service of your choice self hosted or otherwise.

Re: Ask HN: Do you keep a personal journal?

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post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would I go through the trouble of writing something down in the first place if I had to use an airgapped laptop? I'd either just remember it or decide it's not worth remembering.

There's plenty of anecdotes in this thread on why it's a good idea to keep a journal. It's also not just about remembering, but about better understanding what you're thinking in the first place. Beyond that, for me personally it's about liberty. If I don't want to do something, sure I won't do it. But if I do want to do something then I wouldn't let fear get the best of me. Thus not keeping a journal because its con…

> Thus not keeping a journal because its contents might be used in a court of law is just a sad state of affairs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE

If you record in your journal anything that can be perceived to place you near a crime, whether or not you're guilty or the association is a stretch of the imagination, then your words can be used against you without your right to invoke the 5th amendment. If the journal was seized in the execution of a search warrant, you lose the 4th amendment protections too.

The winning move is to not play.

Re: Ask HN: Do you keep a personal journal?

#75
I've tried many times to do it digitally over the years, tried many apps, none really stuck more than a few days.

Last November I started keeping a physical Design Diary, though, and I've managed to keep it up since. I come up with tons of ideas for games, stories, websites, etc, and I tend to lose the ones I don't actively pursue over time, so now I just write it in there. It's nice because with pen and paper I can actually draw the designs of things too, although it's still mostly text. I also put notes from lectures on design I listen to in there also. I also just record whenever I work on those projects and some of the decisions I made while doing so.

I also put some personal things in there as well to provide some context and help aid my memory of when things happen (I have a terrible memory), but I do write this with the idea that somebody might read it or I might want to share it someday, so I try to fully explain the ideas as well as I can.

In fact, I don't just take notes in there or anything. I take notes on scrap paper first, since my natural notetaking style is pretty messy and filled with gaps, and then I sit down later and take those scraps and expand on them in the diary, sometimes days later.

It's already become one of my favorite physical artifacts (that's not an actual game I've made), and I'm trying to start a second one that retroactively goes back to previous games and stuff I've worked on.

The only structure I have in there is I keep things segregated by the day it happened on, more or less. Sometimes I have lecture takeaways put in there weeks after I actually watched it though.

Re: Ask HN: Do you keep a personal journal?

#76
post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's plenty of anecdotes in this thread on why it's a good idea to keep a journal. It's also not just about remembering, but about better understanding what you're thinking in the first place. Beyond that, for me personally it's about liberty. If I don't want to do something, sure I won't do it. But if I do want to do something then I wouldn't let fear get the best of me. Thus not keeping a journal because its con…

> Thus not keeping a journal because its contents might be used in a court of law is just a sad state of affairs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE If you record in your journal anything that can be perceived to place you near a crime, whether or not you're guilty or the association is a stretch of the imagination, then your words can be used against you without your right to invoke the 5th amendment. If th…

That's a great talk which I've seen multiple times. However I still keep a journal with good security. Sure there's a chance that I'm distracted by something while the journal is open and the police bust in right at that moment. That's a risk I'm willing to take, similarly as I'm willing to take the risk of being run over every time I cross the street to go buy some groceries.

Re: Ask HN: Do you keep a personal journal?

#78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their site doesn't seem to have a lot of info about its features, but from the screenshots it doesn't seem to do much that the built-in Apple Notes doesn't do. Weather and geotagging are unique, of course, but I'm not sure those are worth $45 (for the iOS and macOS app together) to me. What in particular do you think DayOne offers that can't be offered by Notes on iOS or macOS?

The current price tag is a little surprising. I picked it up years ago on iOS for like $3. The version I have has been rebranded to Day One Classic.

I had one back when I used a Mac. It is one of very few programs I miss from my Mac and I still look from time to time to see if they have poeted it yet.

The other was "Alarms" which was discontinued even on Mac.

Re: Ask HN: Do you keep a personal journal?

#79
Yes I do.

I have been writing in it for the past year and it has really improved my life in many ways. I have written about it detail here :

https://medium.com/@NikitaVoloboev/day-evaluations-5706f31c9...

The feeling of knowing that not a single day has went unwritten about is amazing. I know what I did on every single one of these days and it feels really empowering to see yourself evolve with time.

Re: Ask HN: Do you keep a personal journal?

#80
post #12

Yes. I tried to for many years with paper and pen. It never worked for me until I started using DayOne [0] on iOS and Mac. Simply superb design and one of my favorite pieces of software to use because it does (almost) exactly what I want it to . When I type, I'm able to render my thoughts directly into text, whereas when I write with a pen I have to think about the physical process of writing. I imagine I'm not the o…

>When I type, I'm able to render my thoughts directly into text, whereas when I write with a pen I have to think about the physical process of writing. I imagine I'm not the only one here who feels this way.

I struggle with this personally because while I know that typing is a faster way to get things down, I really really like the "analog" method of physically writing something down. It offers me some amount of tangible pleasure, but like you said, by the time I get the idea down much of that initial mental spark is fading so it becomes a race against the pen.

Perhaps there's some combination I could practice. Anyhow, this app looks quite neat and I will definitely check it out. Thanks for the link.

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