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Ask HN: Which cloud provider to use in 2016? AWS or GCE?

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Re: Ask HN: Which cloud provider to use in 2016? AWS or GCE?

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Are you talking just about the VMs ? Because if you're talking about the platform, then just the fact that Amazon has Postgresql RDS to take care of your databases is killer. And if I'm already locked in to AWS for one service...

Lack of managed PostgreSQL is the reason I've not tried GCC for anything serious yet

Aiven provides managed PostgreSQL in Google Cloud, please check out https://aiven.io/postgresql and https://youtu.be/m1T0SHUoa8U for a quick introduction to it.

Re: Ask HN: Which cloud provider to use in 2016? AWS or GCE?

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GCP is a non-starter for us due to Region support. No Australia, Singapore or even US west regions means that latency is too high. CDN / caching can make web performance acceptable, but service performance will always suffer. Unfortunately over half of .au traffic routes to Asia via the US west coast (due to lower cost), with the rest route via Japan, Guam or Singapore. This means Taiwan would be a 300ms route for a…

FYI, GCP is getting new regions later this year. US Western region in Oregon and East Asia region in (Tokyo) Japan. https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2016/03/announcing-two-...

And 10 more unannounced locations through '17. I'd be surprised if a single AUS wasn't one of them.

Re: Ask HN: Which cloud provider to use in 2016? AWS or GCE?

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I've been using AWS for years, but the recent downtime for GCE got me to take a look at what Google was offering. (Makes no sense right? All publicity is good publicity?) I was blown away by the UX of both the console and the instances themselves. Example: when you add a new user/public key in the console, it propagates to instances automatically. Sure, you could do that yourself, but the default features are just re…

You have to run their images however, but yeah, that's a nice feature esp. if your org uses GA already.

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Re: Ask HN: Which cloud provider to use in 2016? AWS or GCE?

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I work with 40+ partner companies, and they are all using AWS. Moving big data sets around is cheap and super easy. And, it's not been very expensive to process large data sets on AWS. On average, I crunch through 20 TiB for like $50 a pop. Given that no company that I work with uses Google's cloud, I'm curious who is using it. They're marking hard obviously. Makes me wonder what's an ad and what's not.

Off the top of my head, Spotify, Apple, and Snapchat run at least some part of their businesses on Google Cloud products.

So practically nobody ;) These are just garage firms.

Re: Ask HN: Which cloud provider to use in 2016? AWS or GCE?

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How do HN commenters rank Azure amongst the three? I like the UI/portals quite a bit, but haven't explored any of the 3 major cloud providers in great detail.

I need Windows cloud hosting for SpreadServe, as it's an MS Excel centric server product. I opened an Azure account as I wanted to try Server 2016 Containers. I left two Windows 2016 hosts running, but doing nothing, and attracted a monthly bill of 150GBP! On AWS I've got a heavily tasked Server 2008 t1-micro instance that costs ~20USD per month. So I'm sticking with AWS for pricing reasons. I didn't realize Google was doing Windows hosts, so maybe I'll try it out.

Re: Ask HN: Which cloud provider to use in 2016? AWS or GCE?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And in general, the comparable GCE offerings are LIGHTYEARS ahead in performance. Compare instance launch times. Compare internal network performance. I just cannot fathom using AWS for a new project. I guess if you MUST have some of the SAAS apps built on top of AWS and don't want to consider how you would run the same thing on GCE... but I think GCE would be a fantastic default cloud for 90% of people.

Do you have benchmarks on that? Not my experience for network speeds and CPU of individual machines but it's been 6 months since I checked.

Some of my benchmarks for networking and storage (block and object) are in the middle of this deck:

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1B1jvWWh0ACaDv4ryEzLl...

Re: Ask HN: Which cloud provider to use in 2016? AWS or GCE?

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I've been using AWS for years, but the recent downtime for GCE got me to take a look at what Google was offering. (Makes no sense right? All publicity is good publicity?) I was blown away by the UX of both the console and the instances themselves. Example: when you add a new user/public key in the console, it propagates to instances automatically. Sure, you could do that yourself, but the default features are just re…

You have to run their images however, but yeah, that's a nice feature esp. if your org uses GA already.

For users that are using their own images, we also provide source for all our customization to the images so you can integrate functionality into yours as required.

The code used on Linux to integrate the OS with the platform for ssh keys, startup script, auto-expanding root-disk, etc: https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/compute-image-package...

For Windows, ssh keys aren't supported, however the platform has password reset built-in and starter scripts via metadata are also supported. Here's the code for the Windows agent: https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/compute-image-windows

If running Windows, you will also need device drivers: https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/compute-windows-drive...

Re: Ask HN: Which cloud provider to use in 2016? AWS or GCE?

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I think OP means GCP: Google Cloud Platform. There's GCE, Google Compute Engine, as part of GCP. GCE is also different from another GCP product Container Engine.

nit: GCE is Google Compute Engine, which is a raw VM product most analogous to EC2 in AWS. Google Container Engine is "GKE", which I guess is a clever resolution strategy since it's a hosted Kubernetes service (http://kubernetes.io/). GKE is another compute-based offering, but helps you deploy autoscaling services on Docker.

Re: Ask HN: Which cloud provider to use in 2016? AWS or GCE?

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I think OP means GCP: Google Cloud Platform. There's GCE, Google Compute Engine, as part of GCP. GCE is also different from another GCP product Container Engine.

nit: GCE is Google Compute Engine, which is a raw VM product most analogous to EC2 in AWS. Google Container Engine is "GKE", which I guess is a clever resolution strategy since it's a hosted Kubernetes service ( http://kubernetes.io/ ). GKE is another compute-based offering, but helps you deploy autoscaling services on Docker.

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Re: Ask HN: Which cloud provider to use in 2016? AWS or GCE?

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Google Cloud wins hands down! Places where Google Cloud shines over AWS: Excellent UI, Ease of use, Scalability, Security, Data services, Big Data, Machine Learning, Network, Disks. The only place where Google loses to AWS is Relational Databases. Google Cloud Network and SSDs are about an order of magnitude better (in terms of performance / price) compared to AWS Network and SSDs. Googles Big Data tools (BigQuery, P…

I am very interested about Google Cloud and Machine Learning. Did you try to use other libraries than TensorFlow? What is your experience?
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