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Re: Ask HN: The government of my country blocked VPN access. What should I use?

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The thing about fighting against vpn blocks is that if you win, the govt can just turn off the internet. Something like starlink would be ideal in these circumstances, but you'd have to have the receivers in the country before lockdown.

Thereby entrusting your internet connectivity to the whims of an unhinged lunatic.

Well that "unhinged lunatic" has also publicly characterized himself as a "free speech absolutist" so until someone or something better comes along you take what you can get.

Re: Ask HN: The government of my country blocked VPN access. What should I use?

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post #601

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No, it’s illegal to bring starlink devices here, and I heard that Elon Musk chooses to block China from accessing starlink too, to appease the Chinese authorities.

"Appease" is such a loaded word. He's literally not allowed by law to do it. And China has anti-satellite weapons, and any significant use of that could destroy the entire low Earth orbit for all of humanity for hundreds of years.

Hundreds of years? Starlink satellites are on decaying orbit that would last 5 years, tops. That includes their debris. This post is unnecessarily licking the boots of the richest westerners in modern times.

He doesn't allow Chinese access because the government of China doesn't want him to and he thinks he will make more money keeping them happy than if he pissed them off.

Re: Ask HN: The government of my country blocked VPN access. What should I use?

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Do you have any evidence for either of these claims?

It is absolutely self-evident that VPNs are considered high-value targets and that all spy agencies invest a chunk of resources to go after high-value targets.

Yeah obviously, do you think that's evidence that every single one is a honeypot?

Re: Ask HN: The government of my country blocked VPN access. What should I use?

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post #590

If you need to bypass censorship, you'll need a tool specifically designed for anti-censorship, rather than any one repurposed for that. Since China has the most advanced network censorship, the Chinese have also invented the most advanced anti-censorship tools. The first generation is shadowsocks. It basically encrypts the traffic from the beginning without any handshakes, so DPI cannot find out its nature. This is…

Does starlink work in China?

Tesla sells in china right? This won't be possible

Re: Ask HN: The government of my country blocked VPN access. What should I use?

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If you need to bypass censorship, you'll need a tool specifically designed for anti-censorship, rather than any one repurposed for that. Since China has the most advanced network censorship, the Chinese have also invented the most advanced anti-censorship tools. The first generation is shadowsocks. It basically encrypts the traffic from the beginning without any handshakes, so DPI cannot find out its nature. This is…

Apologies for the rampant paranoia but that all sounds great - but how do I know that advice like this can be trusted, after all you could be an agent of a state security service directing people towards services they want people to use. NB Just to be clear, I'm not doubting you, but if I was in a situation where my life or liberty was at threat I would be very worried about whose advice to take.

Wow, someone sent out of their way to write about protocols. Instead of saying “thank you” or being silent or even doing independent research, you decided to talk about your paranoia. That’s interesting…

Every single thing the person wrote about is a protocol. Each has been written about extensively and they’re open source. You can read source code if you’d like.

Those are the best guarantees you can get with any software. If you’re not technical and not willing to do the research and put in the work, there’s nothing you can do.

Re: Ask HN: The government of my country blocked VPN access. What should I use?

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Do you have any evidence for either of these claims?

From gemini.. (edited for brevity) Kape Technologies Owns: ExpressVPN, CyberGhost, Private Internet Access, Zenmate > is there any suspicion that Kape Technologies is influenced or has ties to the Mossad? Yes, there is significant suspicion and public discussion about Kape Technologies having ties to former Israeli intelligence personnel. While a direct operational link to Mossad has not been proven, the concerns ste…

Israel has universal conscription and anyone smart enough to get out of hauling a rifle around in the hot sun is going to leap at any chance to do so. So some kind of intel background among tech people in Israel isn't nearly as meaningful as it is in other countries where joining the IC is a very deliberate choice.

But more importantly, you can't just make grandiose claims (especially about privacy tools!) then just say "Proof materializes when the dust settles on such matters". You can claim that about literally anything.

Re: Ask HN: The government of my country blocked VPN access. What should I use?

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post #614

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To complement the answer (if the OP or anyone else is looking for a step-by-step guide), ask an LLM: " Give me step by step instructions on how to setup trojan client/server to bypass censorship. Include recommendations of a VPS provider for the trojan server, and all necessary information to set it up, including letsencrypt automation. Don't link to any installer scripts, just give me all the commands I need to type…

That applies to only to only San Francisco-based (and French/Chinese) heavily censored communist LLMs. Grok is willing to provide instructions: https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5LWNvcHk%3D_a78b768c-fcee-4029...

> censored communist LLMs

Are you seriously calling OpenAI and Anthropic "communist"?

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