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Re: Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck job hunting?

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Post by solarmist »

rewmie wrote: post #482
firefoxd wrote: post #90

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A lot of resumes are not even for the job she posts. Bots and other 3rd party recruiters are also trying to game the system so they drown real candidates. When a resumes is from her link, there are high chances it's a real person who took the time to read the job description.

> A lot of resumes are not even for the job she posts. I don't see how this can be a problem. People do look for jobs by contacting companies. Isn't the goal of a recruiter to check potential candidates? > Bots and other 3rd party recruiters are also trying to game the system so they drown real candidates. I fail to see how this problem is avoided by ignoring the company's inbox. > When a resumes is from her link, th…

Really? You don’t see how a recruiter would miss things if there’s 100+ spam/totally unqualified resumes for every legitimate one?

Re: Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck job hunting?

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Post by throwaway2037 »

Dirak wrote: post #678
ransom1538 wrote: post #636

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I remember a report from facebook hiring, when they broke down how each person applied. It was something weird like %0.01 were hired by "walk in". Some person literally walked into FB headquarters and left with a job. I will say, if you walk into an office, you will NOT get ignored.

This type of hiring is most likely reserved for Yann LeCun caliber talent. If you walk in to FB HQ without an appointment, 1) they wouldn’t let you in, and 2) you’d probably just make it awkward for the security guard

Yeah, I agree. That "walk-in" was probably Yann having lunch with another intellectually famous friend. Someone recognized them and took the chance to interview them.

Re: Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck job hunting?

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Post by jghn »

throw-ru-938 wrote: post #669
chrisweekly wrote: post #627

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I see ADHD as a trait. It's only a disability if it holds you back. It's akin to multi-threading; there's more complexity, and risk of thrashing, BUT when managed properly the parallel-processing can be a significant advantage compared to neurotypical minds.

Hmm, which advantages does ADHD give you in the workplace?

> BUT when managed properly the parallel-processing can be a significant advantage compared to neurotypical minds

Re: Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck job hunting?

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Post by _jesse »

Roark66 wrote: post #356
noitpmeder wrote: post #111

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I think this is only really an option for some sub-spaces of tech. As someone in a middling HFT shop my linkedin inbox is flooded with recruiter spam. But most of my friends in frontend work don't get any of this.

There is definitely truth in this. I see lots of ads for senior full stack devs (and devops). Not so much for front end. I wonder why that is.

I think it's easier to get away with not having someone who specializes in front end and so a lot of companies just don't prioritize it. I think a lot of them also don't realize how much they're missing either, but I'm maybe a little biased because I specialize in front end, haha. I do think that this is a contributing factor to why so many websites and web apps work and run so poorly.

Re: Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck job hunting?

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Post by sudosysgen »

omniglottal wrote: post #655
Tostino wrote: post #638

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You don't know their situation or work history, why reply with something so negative?

A veteran is someone who has served in the armed forces. It's like saying "I have 10 years tenure" when they're not a tenured professor, but just mean "have worked in the industry/position for 10 years".

> A veteran (from Latin vetus 'old') is a person who has significant experience (and is usually adept and esteemed) and expertise in a particular occupation or field.[1] A military veteran is a person who is no longer in a military.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veteran

Re: Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck job hunting?

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Post by TheCaptain4815 »

Macha wrote: post #637
TheCaptain4815 wrote: post #604

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This would be such a fantastic use of LLMs. Each step you listed to curtail your list could be done fairly easily using a specific model (prob classification oriented). I wonder if there's a market for something like this.

There's already automated systems that do this. We do it manually just because we don't want to risk a system automatically discarding a candidate we might actually like.

That's kind of my point, I wonder if LLMs (especially something new like GPT4) could surpass those 'old school' automation methods for this given their 'understanding of context'.

Re: Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck job hunting?

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Post by throwaway2037 »

WinLychee wrote: post #670
evantbyrne wrote: post #657

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> I've started grinding leetcode, reviewing system design, and behavioral questions. You MUST memorize perfect responses to regurgitate as fast as possible on the interview. Again, you cannot afford a single mistake in process right now or they will pass on you. I'm not discounting that it is hard to find tech jobs right now, but have you considered that this attitude of "grinding leetcode" is possibly contributing t…

No, the first round is usually a timed coding interview where the goal is to get an optimal solution as fast as possible. You should not be talking much with the interviewer. The intro (if there is one) is a quick exchange of names and last job worked at, then immediately diving into coding problem. You cannot start with a naive solution, interviewer will ask you to skip and go straight to optimal (this happened to m…

Jesus Christ: Where are you interviewing? This sounds more like Stephen King's The Long Walk, than a job interview! Do they hold a gun to your head while you regurtitate the optimal solution?

Re: Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck job hunting?

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Post by noodle »

rootusrootus wrote: post #667
noodle wrote: post #602

As someone on the other side, with open positions we're hiring for: There are probably fewer job openings than there were, but I don't think my company or anyone in my network have changed HOW they're hiring, but we have definitely noticed a huge uptick in volume of applications. Earlier in the year, we were getting almost nothing. Now we're getting hundreds of resumes a week for each open position, and the bulk of e…

> bulk of each one of those resumes do not come close to even being in conversation range of the posted JD I've wondered about that. Sometimes I see jobs that sounds super interesting, but I only match maybe 50% of the unique bits of experience they want. Then I see 200 applicants and think ... how many people are just applying for the hell of it, because the job sounds cool, even though they have none of the right e…

> I've wondered about that. Sometimes I see jobs that sounds super interesting, but I only match maybe 50% of the unique bits of experience they want.

Really depends on what the company needs. We're willing to talk to a pretty wide range of people about some of our roles, while for others we need someone specific. Honestly I think 50% is not that bad. We get a lot of 0% resumes.

Re: Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck job hunting?

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Post by vipermark7 »

osigurdson wrote: post #651
WinLychee wrote: post #553

I've gotten plenty, though I am a decent bit more senior than you. It's very hard to get an offer right now, but for sure you can get interviews. I think I've interviewed with ~10 companies for positions since June, and all passed on me, but it's mostly because I didn't take the time required to prepare. In hindsight nobody asked anything _super_ hard, but you cannot make a single mistake, or a suboptimal solution, o…

It is funny because the industry wants devs who can amplify their productivity with AI. ChatGPT can crack leetcode problems easily, yet the interview process is selecting for people who are good at competing directly with AI.

Only the software industry can create gatling footguns like this :)

Re: Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck job hunting?

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Post by solarmist »

moneywoes wrote: post #683
Balgair wrote: post #675

I'm outside of FAANGs and the valley and in biotech and formerly DoD. For us, it's always been 'this bad'. Applying for thousands of jobs isn't too terrible, depending on the economy of course. Covid was a rare bright spot for biotech applications, unfortunately. My advice is to ditch the applications entirely and go straight to networking. Yes, not exactly the most revolutionary advice here. But, if you;re in that k…

>My advice is to ditch the applications entirely and go straight to networking. Yes, not exactly the most revolutionary advice here. But, if you;re in that kind of competition/environment, you've no choice but to work your network. Could you elaborate on this please? Is there more to networking than just sending personalized connect messages based on a person profile on Linkedin? I have been doing that without much s…

Yes, meeting someone in person, like at a meetup, even for 5 minutes, will get you 100% better responses than trying to force a connection without even having met the person before.

Alternatively asking someone you know in person to introduce you to the person. You're trying to connect with.

Doing “networking” cold without any personal connections rarely leads anywhere valuable.

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