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Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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"To big [to allow] to fail" is what that term means. This would extend to a service like amazon actually, where survival of the service would be an extraordinary effort in case this problem lasted for a long time. The way you imagined it, as 100% uptime, is incorrect.

I didn't get that at all from the OP. His comment I'm fairly certain is of the "why the heck are we centralizing the web to 2 or 3 infrastructure companies" for what amounts to a minor amount of convenience. We've seen this story play out in other industries and it never works out well for average people. It's been astounding for me to watch the pace of this centralizing and who is helping it along. The tldr; point i…

It's because centralization is really, really convenient when it works correctly. And most of the time, it does. It's just when it breaks it's really, really bad.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

#683

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I'm getting the same outage in us-west-2 right now.

IIRC the console for S3 is global and not region specific even though buckets are.

Also, cross-region replication is a new-ish thing: https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/new-cross-region-replicatio...

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

#684

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It's been down that level from before this started happening. Surprised this outage hasn't moved it yet.

Target's stock price absolutely tanked today. I bet that, while the s3 outage will have a negative effect on AMZN, Target reporting way under estimates is probably creating a positive effect that evens it out.

That makes sense. Hadn't heard about the Target news.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

#685

Well, at least our decision to split services has paid off. All of our web app infrastructure is on AWS, which is currently down, but our status page [0] is on Digital Ocean, so at least our customers can go see that we are down! A pyrrhic victory... ;) [0] - http://status.hrpartner.io EDIT UPDATE: Well, I spoke too soon - even our status page is down now, but not sure if that is linked to the AWS issues, or simply t…

HTTP 500 :(

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

#686

Well, at least our decision to split services has paid off. All of our web app infrastructure is on AWS, which is currently down, but our status page [0] is on Digital Ocean, so at least our customers can go see that we are down! A pyrrhic victory... ;) [0] - http://status.hrpartner.io EDIT UPDATE: Well, I spoke too soon - even our status page is down now, but not sure if that is linked to the AWS issues, or simply t…

HTTP 500 :(

Plot twist: Digital Ocean is secretly hosted on AWS

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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post #659

I was listening to sessions from AWS Re:invent last night. What jumped out at me was the claim of 11 9's for S3. How many of those 9's have they blown through with this outage?

That's a durability target, not an availability SLA. Durability != Availability.

That makes more sense (since I was listening to it in the context of a conference session, I'm not sure if I heard a distinctive term being used, though I'm sure they're careful about the language they use)

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

#690

A piece of hard-earned advice: us-east-1 is the worst place to set up AWS services. You're signing up for the oldest hardware and the most frequent outages. For legacy customers, it's hard to move regions, but in general, if you have the chance to choose a region other than us-east-1, do that. I had the chance to transition to us-west-2 about 18 months ago and in that time, there have been at least three us-east-1 ou…

The s3 outage covered all regions.
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