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Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?
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Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?
#662- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Server - HEADLINE: Built-in support for installing up-to-date packages - DESCRIPTION: Currently, `apt install [package]` on LTS Ubuntu will install a package that is up to 24 months out of date (or more if you're not on the latest LTS). Literally one month ago, using the latest version of Windows 10, I installed Ubuntu for Windows (which installed Ubuntu 14.04 LTS), and `apt-get install nodejs` insta…
> (which installed Ubuntu 14.04 LTS), and `apt-get install nodejs` installed Node 0.10 (from 2013! in 2017!). Not in 2017. In 2014. You're using Ubuntu 14, which means you get 2014 versions.
Even the latest versions of Ubuntu install Node 0.10. This is a known thing in the Node community which is why we use tj/n or NVM.
Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?
#663- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop
- HEADLINE: Organize packagers
- DESCRIPTION: We have aptitude, apt-get, apt, dpkg, snap, npm, pip, etcetera. I really don't care where they should go as long as permissions are not set to superuser unnecessarily. I would love some default organization imposed by Ubuntu to get order in this chaos. Define standard locations for these package managers.
- ROLE/AFFILIATION: IoT
- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop
- HEADLINE: Make sure all sensors work
- DESCRIPTION: Out of the box working Yoga 900 with rotating functionality, flipping 180 degrees, etc. Would be great.
Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?
#664Hi Dustin! - Ubuntu Desktop - Ubuntu Subsystem for Windows :) - An integrated system (Wine is not user friendly imho) to launch windows programs. - linux (and windows) user and developer. @vinnes
I may be wrong, but I don't think Canonical has the engineering resources to pull it off. Even if they did, the main issue is that Microsoft does not publish their API spec which is why Wine and ReactOS devs bend over backwards to be compatible with Windows binaries. It also does not make sense from a business perspective. Considering there is no demand for such a system outside of the very, very small number of hobb…
If these issues are anything to go by, there most certainly is a demand:
* https://github.com/Microsoft/BashOnWindows/issues/1494
* https://github.com/Microsoft/BashOnWindows/issues/1243
* https://github.com/Microsoft/BashOnWindows/issues/1516
Did you not realize what vinnes meant by "Ubuntu Subsystem for Windows"?
Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?
#665Isn't this pretty much spam? What interesting discussion could possibly come of it and what if everyone with a product started posting these?
I'm really sorry that you feel that way. I'm enthralled with the discussion, reading every single response :-) Ubuntu is among the world's largest community driven open source projects, and we're delighted to have feedback from the forward-thinking HackerNews community here! Cheers, :-Dustin
I think it's a user survey you could have put on the web and maybe posted a link to HN? I'm glad you're enthralled but it's a 7923498713-posts-long random wishlist, for the most part. It is promotional spam.
Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?
#666FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop, Ubuntu Server, Ubuntu Core
HEADLINE: Punish users of 16.x and lower.
ROLE/AFFILIATION: Bastard programmer from hell.
DESCRIPTION:
What I most want to see in Ubuntu 17.10 is suffering for all users of Ubuntu 16.x and lower.
Please make everyone rewrite their APT configuration for any updates to continue to work, and give the damned laggards only critical security fixes after they do.
Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?
#667I was wondering how are planning to deal with `compiz` are we stuck with it ??
Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?
#668- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: Please, please, please fix space issues with /boot. - DESCRIPTION: I'm constantly running out of space in /boot, due to kernel updates. It drives me so incredibly batty. If I had to guess, this is due to poor defaults in the installer for folks that opt to encrypt their whole disk. Even still, this system was setup back on 14.04 (don't think it started on 12.04), and I have no int…
+1
This is a feature (kernel update) that is used by everyone, including newbs. They don't have to understand anything to enjoy the update, and they shouldn't have to understand anything to avoid the space filling issue.
Lots of ways to fix it, I don't claim to know which is best:
* Always leave N% /boot available, and delete or move old kernels to satisfy that.
* Move old kernels to /old_kernels, outside of /boot. Driven either by satisfying N% space, or no more than K number of kernels kept in /boot.
* Opt in, opt out, ask this on installation and for non-server installs, default to "never have to think about this again."
* Easily configurable in the "whatever that box was called when I last used Ubuntu years ago" box.
Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?
#669-FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop
-HEADLINE: Default ZFS from the installer
-DESCRIPTION: There is way too much work now to get Ubuntu Desktop up and running on ZFS. I think everyone would love for you to make Ubuntu install on ZFS by default from the gui installer. ZFS is the one and only reason why I currently use FreeBSD. If Ubuntu would install on ZFS without me having to spend so muvh time on hackery it I would run back to Ubuntu in a heart beat.
-ROLE: CEO, Software Developer
Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?
#670-FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop
-HEADLINE: Better Support for XPS Series Adapters
-DESCRIPTION: I want my Dell DA200 to work as expected.
-ROLE: Developer