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Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

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Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

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I recently looked into seeing a therapist for reasons similar to the OP's. I tried lyra. All the wording and questions ask screamed to me "these are not my type of people". I'm not going to go into specifics but imagine you walked into a help conference and every table had energy stones, power of pyramids, astrology books, etc... If you're anything like me you'd walk out. Once I made it past all that it recommended s…

> It just got me wondering how much of therapy is a white culture thing I assume non-white majority countries also have psychologists/therapists, though.

It sounds like therapy is not common in many cultures

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/what-therapy-is-like-around-t...

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

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I agree with most answers. Therapy is good.

Tried any sports? I am almost 50 and started learning kitesurf... it is frightning, but I know I need to expose myself to some level of controlled risk, I was always too cautious, never did sports, and I want to get old with some health, so I have chosen something that I always wanted but never had the courage to do.

About being too late for wife... kids... its never late... the problem is if you visualize this girl as someone young, without prior kids or life baggage. I am pretty sure there are women around, with failed relationships, that would like to connect. Part of the process of loving yourself is accepting your age and everything you lived as a good thing. every bad decision also made what you are, be happy that you learned from them.

People may get angry by this next opinion, but relax, its just an opinion, I can change my mind about it by just reading your answers, but I particularly think that going back to US will not help you, because even if you want to be in a different mindset than the last time, to enjoy better the life there, everybody else there dont have this mindset (with very rare exceptions), so you will not have company for your "carpe diem" moments.

This is a long shot, but you should read about AHDH and see if you correlate. There is a difference between beeing depressed and being irritated all the time and mad about the things. If this is the case, lots of therapy and medicine. Takes a long time, but the medicine is modern and very effective.

Focus in feeling better with yourself and the rest will come.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

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"See a therapist" almost seems condescending even to average people with average jobs. Did you read the bit about $25K in savings? Or the part about there are "no mental health facilities in the small town where I live"? How's he afford a therapist, time or money wise?

> Or the part about There are "no mental health facilities in the small town where I live" HN is hugely biased towards people who live in cities. A lot of the posters simply do not understand how a lot of us outside the cities live, and the resources they take for granted that we don't have access to. For me the drive to the nearest therapist is measured not in minutes, but hours. That's impossible for someone who ha…

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Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

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> There are no mental health facilities in the small town where I live.

There are some excellent suggestion in this thread, but the above comment seems inadequately addressed. The absence of adequate mental health facilities is a serious barrier. Virtual, remote and phone-based mental health interventions are useful tools, but often ineffective on their own. In-person support nourishes our need for connection. I say this from experience. My father, who lived in a rural setting and suffered from alcoholism, died unexpectedly after his in-person addictions support ceased during the pandemic and was replaced with phone-based counseling. Your situation differs in many important ways, but it is important to be realistic about interventions and their effectiveness.

In the absence of mental health facilities, I would encourage you to consider religious groups in your area. It's important to recognize that organized religion provides many social goods even if we may find their claims questionable. If organized religion is anathema to you, I would encourage you to approach it in a secular manner. Not as a source of truth but instead as a collection of myth, practice and wisdom that has nourished the souls of many before you.

I know this can be hard for some people to seriously consider, but I would encourage you to at least give it a try. I have never found a human settlement that had no religious group and often there are many to choose from. Consider finding the group with the most beautiful building or greatest reverence for particular human endeavor (art, music, meditation, etc). Once you find one you can tolerate best, then commit to it for a fixed period of time and take its rituals seriously. This means attending weekly sessions (all of them - you have the time), volunteering (build those connections), and ideally finding people you enjoy being with. And think seriously about the foundational document or creed that the group considers. Ancient creeds may be dressed up in religious wording but these sacred resources have guided humanity long before us and will do so for a very long time. You may find yourself enlightened when you consider that some of these ancient prophets and religious thinkers were struggling at the forefront of human thought to write down ideas for which words did not exist. At the very least ask "What are these authors trying to say?". Consider being charitable given billions of humans have found these religious ideas worthy of preservation over thousands of years. You never know, you might even come to value them too.

For example, one thing you will almost always learn from these ancient, sacred texts is that the good things of life such as a wife, children, home and meaningful work were attainable to men much, much older than you. These blessings of life can be yours as well.

You are never as alone as you think you are, and thing are never as hopeless as they seem. Getting started will be hard I am sure. Breaking the chain of negative thought will require effort. Life contains suffering and pain, yes. But the good things you desire are worth the struggle. If you can find nothing good in yourself to admire, then simply begin with admiring your desire for a wife, children, a home and meaningful work. These are admirable things and admirable is the man that desires them. My hope is you will admire yourself as I admire you.

Godspeed!

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

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I know people have already given a good bit of advice and this was in my 20s not my 40s but I went through a pretty rough patch in college that I left with a couple suicide attempts and a trip to the mental hospital. Counseling was super valuable for me especially Christian counseling. I know this site isn’t the most religion friendly but the only reason I’m alive today is because Jesus met me in all that junk. Take it or leave it but that’s what happened to me.

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> It just got me wondering how much of therapy is a white culture thing I assume non-white majority countries also have psychologists/therapists, though.

It sounds like therapy is not common in many cultures https://www.huffpost.com/entry/what-therapy-is-like-around-t...

It's not common anywhere. If anything, it's quite new and generally a rich man's thing.

Poor people generally avoid discussing issues in public and then discuss them with family.

But far more frequently violence and alcohol are the default "therapy".

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

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No offense to the reply, but “need a therapist” is a very American response and a bit of a cop out. OP, I’ve seen many people turn around after aged 40, including a friend who got married for the first time at aged 58. She’s energetic and attractive and incidentally also turned her life around after 40. My two pennies would suggest you throw the past expectations out the window, determine where your passions lie, and…

Therapy is like covid boosters. Every two months for infinity and you never get any better.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone here turned around their life in their 40s?

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Dude... your life has barely begun my friend. You've got an education, skills, a little savings... I guarantee there are plenty of people in this thread who would trade places in a minute. Get some therapy or figure out how to get your head in the right place, figure out where you want to go in life (career, family, relationships, hobbies, etc) and go there.

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Not 40 but about to turn 37: I hired a personal trainer that I see twice a week with the goal of getting as strong as possible (not focusing on weight loss which I think is important). The change in 6 months has been unbelievable. I have put on a ton of muscle, gained a ton of strength, my metabolic health is now PERFECT, and I have a ton of energy and vigor which is spilling over into the rest of my life. Getting ph…

Not to knock your fitness achievements (well done). But OP pretty clearly isn't in the earnings bracket to afford a personal trainer.

thanks, and you're probably right. But I do want to say for anyone looking on, personal trainers can be way cheaper than you'd expect, like half the price of a massage, I pay 50 bucks a session. Which again, isn't nothing, but in hindsight I would have payed way more for what I ended up getting out of it.
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