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Re: Ask HN: Have you been laid off?

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My entire department got laid off. While some people are local, I was here on the work visa, and I was six months away from getting PR allowing free market access. Now No one is hiring, people are retracting job offers and cancelling interviews at the last minute with no definite timeline. Interviewing for bigN takes a lot of prep, and there is really no time, midst whatever little interviews I have lined up. This is…

I might have an opening for you, can you email me?

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Re: Ask HN: Have you been laid off?

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Not to scare anyone, but myself and many of my highly capable friends were laid off after the dotcom bubble burst in the early 2000's. It took many of us 1, 2 sometimes 3 years to get back to the same level of job we had before. Prepare for a long haul. Get over your ego immediately and take whatever job you can get now, while you continue to look for work in the software industry. I drove a city bus (surprisingly to…

> Get over your ego immediately and take whatever job you can get now, while you continue to look for work in the software industry. I drove a city bus (surprisingly to me, I loved it.)

Getting over your ego is always good advice :).

I also would suggest contracting if you are interested in that. It's a different experience than just coding, but you can learn a lot about the business side of this (marketing and getting paid). That's what I did around 2002.

Re: Ask HN: Have you been laid off?

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Hiring remote workers at scale is super complex if you want to comply with local laws (and you must). Hiring contractors is easy but if your contractor should be indeed classified as an employee you will be in trouble one day or the other. You have to set up a legal entity in that country/state, provide workers' comp, health benefits, unemployment, comply with various laws on leave, vacation, medical, etc... This is…

> but if your contractor should be indeed classified as an employee What would be the reasons for that?

Many countries have laws that allow them to reclassify consultants who look like employees (ie the client dictates how to do the work, work conditions, hours of work, etc) as de-facto employees. This is why Professional Employment Organizations (PEO) have increased in popularity. They employ the 'consultant' and thus handle all local labor law, but send the consultant to the client. Typically a consultant will negotiate the hours and bill rate and the PEO will add some extra for the overhead costs.

Re: Ask HN: Have you been laid off?

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I'm probably too late to this topic: but if your skills are related to Robotics and you were laid off let me know at mat@weeklyrobotics.com and I'll share your profile with all the readers of Weekly Robotics newsletter.

Re: Ask HN: Have you been laid off?

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I might have an opening for you, can you email me?

Hi. Looked at your profile couldn’t find the email. Pls let me know where to send it.

Sorry - https://jumbleberry.com/ is the company You can email me at ian@jumbleberry.com

Re: Ask HN: Have you been laid off?

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This is correct. I live in Tucson and am quite familiar with Raytheon (having been recruited and know numerous employees as they are the biggest employer here). They are not going to be hiring remote developers from Ireland. In all likelihood, they will not be hiring any remote developers anywhere, unless those people will be relocating to Tucson and being on premise once this calms down.

Hmm. How are environments like this handling the WFH status quo? My completely naive/distant presumption of sites like these is that they are fundamentally incompatible with the security concessions inherent to remote work.

Critical staff live onsite. Everyone else goes home and doesn’t work.

Re: Ask HN: Have you been laid off?

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At the beginning of the year, I decided it was time to find a new job after 10 years with my employer. I spent February doing interview prep and conducting interviews. Back then, the COVID-19 was mostly limited to China, markets and governments weren't terribly concerned about COVID-19. I accept a job offer, put in my two weeks notice, and my last day at was last Friday. Hardly anyone was seriously concerned about CO…

I am in a similar boat. Resigned just before this hit. I am still working out my notice at my current job and my new employer assures me everything is fine, but I still feel like I picked the craziest possible time to finally move after eight years at one company! Oh well, fingers crossed for both of us.

Dejavu. I'm in exactly the same situation.

Re: Ask HN: Have you been laid off?

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At the beginning of the year, I decided it was time to find a new job after 10 years with my employer. I spent February doing interview prep and conducting interviews. Back then, the COVID-19 was mostly limited to China, markets and governments weren't terribly concerned about COVID-19. I accept a job offer, put in my two weeks notice, and my last day at was last Friday. Hardly anyone was seriously concerned about CO…

I have been laid off just before 2015 and I haven't found any stable work since then. I have been under-employed for a long while before the outbreak, and I don't even know what new change-ups in job hunting I should be doing now. For a long time, many people have said that my years of experience make me valuable so that I should have gotten offers very quickly, but the reality hasn't shown that. Heck, even the found…

I hate to say this but working for startups really warps everyone's sense of level and career progression. Startup management cares to retain talent and they often give out titles (Senior, Director, VP) like confetti. If you really want to know where you are, the old-school behemoths (e.g. IBM, Lockheed etc) tend to have better (and more rigid) levels.

Re: Ask HN: Have you been laid off?

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IMO, if you are fully remote, you might look at it the other way around. The ridiculous salaries are mostly in California and one or two other places. Those places might realize that they can get react devs for a dime a dozen out of bootcamps all over the country for a third of that in a few months once they have let people do fully remote work for a while. The smart thing would seem to be to hire them now before the…

My bet: remote-only for most companies won't last. If there's one thing I've learned over the past 8 years running this company, is most people really struggle at remote. They don't have the dedicated work space, they lack the necessary self-discipline, and many people really start to falter without face time and social interaction. I suspect once this virus is solved, we'll see a flood back to in-person jobs. React…

> "most people really struggle at remote"

I used to think that, but now that circumstances are forcing me to work remote, I'm amazed at how much I get done, even with the crap communication due to the overloaded VPN at work. And that's while also trying to homeschool two children.

Alright, this is a weird situation that's not comparable to anything else, but still, velocity seems remarkably high in my team.

Re: Ask HN: Have you been laid off?

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If they offered you a good counter offer, ask them if there is a similar offer still on the table. Their IT challenges are probably only just ramping up and they will need you as people shift remote. I'm also in NZ. SO happy that our GOVT takes this so seriously.

> SO happy that our GOVT takes this so seriously. Can you elaborate? Don't know much of what's going on in NZ at the moment.

For some time now, all incoming visitors have been required to self-isolate for 14 days. This means that any incubating virus runs its course without further incident.

https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/...

If any symptoms are shown, patients get tested. This is generally done in the carpark of their preferred Doctor (GP).

Positive tests are contact traced. In most cases there are very few potential people they could have infected, since they were isolated.

All businesses have been putting place COVID-19 plans and stepping up things like cleaning and moving workers remote.

Any school with infections possible is immediately closed, close contacts of the infected are put into self-isolation.

After some tourists failed to follow the 14 day quarantine guidelines, NZ has closed all its borders to non-residents.

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