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Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Post by JdeBP »

thayne wrote: post #560

FLAVOR: All HEADLINE: only 1 init system DESCRIPTION: Having Sysvinit, upstart, and systemd all supported is confusing and difficult to manage. Given the controversy of systemd I can see being able to choose between Sysvinit and systemd for a system, but having both at the same time is problematic.

Ubuntu has upstart and systemd. It hasn't had System 5 init since 2006. What limited System 5 rc support you see, System 5 rc being a different thing to System 5 init, is a consequence of either upstart or systemd having compatibility mechanisms.

What you are objecting to is not "having both at the same time" because that simply is not the case. What you are objecting to is actually the compatibility mechanism that systemd provides, and what results from having a system composed of both System 5 rc scripts and systemd units. (One can have Upstart job files as well, but switching between Upstart and systemd involves a reboot, and the two do not operate at the same time.)

The systemd that Martin Pitt and the other systemd people make for Ubuntu does not make this compatibility mechanism optional. There is a switch that they can throw to remove the compatibility mechanism entirely, going to the other extreme. For fairly obvious reasons, they haven't thrown it.

* https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/510cb1ce89d8ce3310e7...

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Post by pc2g4d »

daguu wrote: post #511

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: Better palm detection for trackpads - DESCRIPTION: With the caveat that I realize that you need to support many brands of laptop with different trackpad drivers, this is one of my major pains when using a linux (Ubuntu) laptop vs anything else: after hours and hours (and hours) of googling and struggling, I can still not manage to get reasonable palm detection going on my work lap…

Yes, this is a huge problem for me, too! I'm currently using Fedora, so it seems to cut across distros, but it drives me crazy. After tweaking a bunch of config variables I've got something pretty usable, but it's not ideal and it was a huge pain to get to this point. The same machine running in Windows has a much more pleasant trackpad experience, so it's got to be the software.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Post by Fl1nt »

pas wrote: post #202
faragon wrote: post #118

Loving Ubuntu myself, I would like a system not requiring command line stuff for fixing things, so everyone could use and maintain it, not just experts (e.g. a "fix my computer" button that in worst case it could reinstall everything but the home folders).

CoreOS-like A/B system partitions would be a very useful addition to Ubuntu.

This feature already exist guys: https://docs.ubuntu.com/core/en/reference/gadget

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Post by JdeBP »

huherto wrote: post #152

FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop. HEADLINE: Better support for proxy for those of us behind corporate firewalls. DESCRIPTION:Passwords need to be kept in env variables which can leak out. Every tool does it a little different. curl, wget, chrome, firefox. I had to modify python code for apt-get to pass the proxy.

An Acquire::http::Proxy in apt.conf wasn't sufficient?

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Post by Dowwie »

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop

- HEADLINE: A simple, native OS backup snapshot / recovery manager

- DESCRIPTION: Today, there are third-party solutions for creating periodic backup snapshots and recovery of a linux OS, such as Clonezilla or rsnapshot. These solutions are difficult to work with. This request is for an intuitive, simple backup/restore manager that allows a user to periodically backup an entire system image and rollback to prior saved images with ease.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Post by eikenberry »

egnehots wrote: post #584
skamoen wrote: post #14

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop: 1. HEADLINE: A way to have different scaling for external monitors hooked up to my HiDPI laptop. Currently I need can only set a single scaling factor, so I need to ajust my laptop screen resolution to match scaling of the external monitor. If that's not possible, a way to automatically set resolution and scale for both screens once you hook one up would already save me a lot of manual switc…

User: I want hi-res apps! Dev: Sure, here you go. User: But why is it so small on my new shiny tablet high density screen? Dev: (SHit it worked okay for me) Okay now it detects the density and scale.. User: But when I move the window to my old good lcd screen it becomes way too big! Dev: Okay let's see if I can dynamically adapt to a new monitor density, it's just one scale factor. User: But when I put it on my big t…

Simple answer is don't auto-detect. Allow the user to set the scaling factor per screen and then just auto-apply that when using that screen. This just requires a way to uniquely identify screens and requires the user to set the scaling factor for that screen once when first used.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Post by gizmo686 »

dflock wrote: post #590
echelon wrote: post #230

- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: Proper virtual desktop / spaces for multiple monitors (i.e. independent, per-monitor spaces) - DESCRIPTION: Right now it isn't possible to switch workspaces on two or more monitors independently. This is possible on Mac, and is a huge productivity boost. Coming home from work to use my personal Ubuntu machine always feels like a step backwards for this reason alone. I want to be a…

This is what XMonad does by default - I hate it, but you apparently don't, so you could switch window managers to get this, if you wanted.

What parent describes is what most (all?) tiling window managers do. However, XMonad's default is really weird. Instead of each desktop having their own set of workspaces, there is a single set of workspaces shared by all desktops. If you try to switch desktop A to the workspace currently shown by desktop B, then B will switch to the one currently shown by desktop A.

There is a module to get the more 'normal' behaviour of each desktop having its own set of workspaces, but it can be a bit difficult to set up if you are not familar with Haskell.

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