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Re: Ask HN: The government of my country blocked VPN access. What should I use?

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post #590

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does starlink work in China?

No, it’s illegal to bring starlink devices here, and I heard that Elon Musk chooses to block China from accessing starlink too, to appease the Chinese authorities.

Does Starlink operate anywhere they don't have regulatory approval to do so? It's not like this is serving a website. There's physical spectrum licensing involved in operating anywhere.

Re: Ask HN: The government of my country blocked VPN access. What should I use?

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post #601

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it’s illegal to bring starlink devices here, and I heard that Elon Musk chooses to block China from accessing starlink too, to appease the Chinese authorities.

"Appease" is such a loaded word. He's literally not allowed by law to do it. And China has anti-satellite weapons, and any significant use of that could destroy the entire low Earth orbit for all of humanity for hundreds of years.

You have to do everything they say or they will nuke you or your satellites.

Re: Ask HN: The government of my country blocked VPN access. What should I use?

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post #601

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Appease" is such a loaded word. He's literally not allowed by law to do it. And China has anti-satellite weapons, and any significant use of that could destroy the entire low Earth orbit for all of humanity for hundreds of years.

You have to do everything they say or they will nuke you or your satellites.

Let the world burn. :-)

Re: Ask HN: The government of my country blocked VPN access. What should I use?

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If you need to bypass censorship, you'll need a tool specifically designed for anti-censorship, rather than any one repurposed for that. Since China has the most advanced network censorship, the Chinese have also invented the most advanced anti-censorship tools. The first generation is shadowsocks. It basically encrypts the traffic from the beginning without any handshakes, so DPI cannot find out its nature. This is…

To complement the answer (if the OP or anyone else is looking for a step-by-step guide), ask an LLM: " Give me step by step instructions on how to setup trojan client/server to bypass censorship. Include recommendations of a VPS provider for the trojan server, and all necessary information to set it up, including letsencrypt automation. Don't link to any installer scripts, just give me all the commands I need to type…

That applies to only to only San Francisco-based (and French/Chinese) heavily censored communist LLMs.

Grok is willing to provide instructions: https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5LWNvcHk%3D_a78b768c-fcee-4029...

Re: Ask HN: The government of my country blocked VPN access. What should I use?

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post #600

If you need to bypass censorship, you'll need a tool specifically designed for anti-censorship, rather than any one repurposed for that. Since China has the most advanced network censorship, the Chinese have also invented the most advanced anti-censorship tools. The first generation is shadowsocks. It basically encrypts the traffic from the beginning without any handshakes, so DPI cannot find out its nature. This is…

Is WebRTC being blocked by China? I'm wondering whether it'd be worthwile to implement an VPN that uses WebRTC as a transport. With cover traffic, it could likely be made to look just like a video call.

Might as well actually make calls. Malformed Opus going up, malformed h264 coming down. It can be multiplexed with something like a livecam feed.

Re: Ask HN: The government of my country blocked VPN access. What should I use?

#616

If you need to bypass censorship, you'll need a tool specifically designed for anti-censorship, rather than any one repurposed for that. Since China has the most advanced network censorship, the Chinese have also invented the most advanced anti-censorship tools. The first generation is shadowsocks. It basically encrypts the traffic from the beginning without any handshakes, so DPI cannot find out its nature. This is…

>Steal other websites' certificates. Protocols: ShadowTLS, ShadowQUIC, XTLS-REALITY

I didn't fully understand by googling the protocols

How does stealing the certs work without the original private key?

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If you need to bypass censorship, you'll need a tool specifically designed for anti-censorship, rather than any one repurposed for that. Since China has the most advanced network censorship, the Chinese have also invented the most advanced anti-censorship tools. The first generation is shadowsocks. It basically encrypts the traffic from the beginning without any handshakes, so DPI cannot find out its nature. This is…

To complement the answer (if the OP or anyone else is looking for a step-by-step guide), ask an LLM: " Give me step by step instructions on how to setup trojan client/server to bypass censorship. Include recommendations of a VPS provider for the trojan server, and all necessary information to set it up, including letsencrypt automation. Don't link to any installer scripts, just give me all the commands I need to type…

Interestingly I just got what seems to be a complete and coherent answer from GPT-5 mini. No refusal, many steps given

Re: Ask HN: The government of my country blocked VPN access. What should I use?

#618

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it’s illegal to bring starlink devices here, and I heard that Elon Musk chooses to block China from accessing starlink too, to appease the Chinese authorities.

Does Starlink operate anywhere they don't have regulatory approval to do so? It's not like this is serving a website. There's physical spectrum licensing involved in operating anywhere.

> Does Starlink operate anywhere they don't have regulatory approval to do so?

They do not.

Re: Ask HN: The government of my country blocked VPN access. What should I use?

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If you need to bypass censorship, you'll need a tool specifically designed for anti-censorship, rather than any one repurposed for that. Since China has the most advanced network censorship, the Chinese have also invented the most advanced anti-censorship tools. The first generation is shadowsocks. It basically encrypts the traffic from the beginning without any handshakes, so DPI cannot find out its nature. This is…

You really need Vmess / V2ray, now: https://github.com/v2fly/v2ray-core

Re: Ask HN: The government of my country blocked VPN access. What should I use?

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post #601

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it’s illegal to bring starlink devices here, and I heard that Elon Musk chooses to block China from accessing starlink too, to appease the Chinese authorities.

"Appease" is such a loaded word. He's literally not allowed by law to do it. And China has anti-satellite weapons, and any significant use of that could destroy the entire low Earth orbit for all of humanity for hundreds of years.

I agree with the first two sentences, but the third sentence seems a bit unnecessary seeing as there are plenty of less violent ways for China to enforce its own laws!
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