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Re: Ask HN: Do you still use search engines?

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no by query syntax i mean what people have called google fu. yeah seems the same to me. type some stuff, read the response, evaluate, loop or break. cool you hate ai and dont want to learn a new pattern. but you say i dont want to think which doesnt make sense. you are thinking just as hard.

> what people have called google fu I don’t know what that means in any specific sense. I don’t want to think about how to interact with the search mechanism. It’s the same problem with using voice assistants like Siri - I have to think about how to construct my query so that it will be parsed correctly. With most search engines I can just type in disparate terms that might be related. The order doesn’t matter, the p…

> I don’t know what that means

ironic

> I don’t want to think about how to interact with the search mechanism.

so then why did you proceed to describe a process whereby you iterative construct high entropy tokens to submit to a search engine because you have an internal model of their indexing process by ad hoc interactions for years?

Re: Ask HN: Do you still use search engines?

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Search engines are like older versions of LLMs. They are not designed as human-like assistants, but their goal of providing answers is similar in nature.

Search engines tend to over summarize less, and provide lots of references. Something LLM researchers worked hard to achieve.

If they feel lackluster for you, maybe you are not interested in those specific use cases in which they shine.

Similarly, the reason could be that you don't want to check references for yourself, and you prefer to trust the selection of cross references provided by your LLM of choice.

It is likely that your close circle of friends share an identity similar to yours. That is, by many, considered a defining characteristic of friendship. Although it can be a sign of the rising popularity of LLMs, one must take it as an anecdote and not a statistically significant fact.

I do prefer a soft selection of queries on different search engines and different LLM models. Since you asked for an opinion and self-declared an ability to do searches and questions yourself, I don't feel obligated to cite sources for this answer.

Re: Ask HN: Do you still use search engines?

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I actually have two settings in the AI features settings area: one for "chat" and another for "assist" -- which I think is the word salad summaries? I've got chat set to Off and assist set to Never. Searching 'octatrack' has the wikipedia page on the top right as a summary box thing. no ai word salad for me :shrug:

A/B testing. I don't always get AI gibberish in place of actual page summaries. Either way I want to see actual results even if I clear my cookies or open a new private tab.

i don't know if you'll ever see this -- but i just discovered this exists today: https://noai.duckduckgo.com

Re: Ask HN: Do you still use search engines?

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