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Ask HN: Skype, but properly peer-to-peer?
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Re: Ask HN: Skype, but properly peer-to-peer?
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
Regarding the last part, that's where technology like upnp cones into play. There are already some ideas out there: http://tools.ietf.org/search/draft-bnss-v6ops-upnp-01#sectio... Also once you know the address that doesn't use NAT, you could just use the STUN idea and just and the data from both ends at the same time. Regarding ISP problem... have you tried contacting the support to replace the router? If it's their…
Yes, I contacted the ISP. The reasoning is "that is a limitation/flaw in the firmware of the single router that we provide (and you cannot use your own, or meddle with it). The company behind that product might correct this mistake early 2014 and we will upgrade your routers firmware (you cannot) when we get around. Just.. unplug it every three days for now". That is the official statement, confirmed several times. T…
I have no problems with an AVM router with (proper) dual stack - Dual Stack Lite sounds like something from a nightmare.
Did you try installing freetz?
Re: Ask HN: Skype, but properly peer-to-peer?
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, I contacted the ISP. The reasoning is "that is a limitation/flaw in the firmware of the single router that we provide (and you cannot use your own, or meddle with it). The company behind that product might correct this mistake early 2014 and we will upgrade your routers firmware (you cannot) when we get around. Just.. unplug it every three days for now". That is the official statement, confirmed several times. T…
I have no problems with an AVM router with (proper) dual stack - Dual Stack Lite sounds like something from a nightmare. Did you try installing freetz?
Impossible to install freetz on the single available router - 6360.
You can't do a thing, basically.
Re: Ask HN: Skype, but properly peer-to-peer?
#64Just use Skype.
It's been my experience that the way to technological bliss is through reducing friction by using what everyone else is using.
For voice and video over IP, that's Skype.
Re: Ask HN: Skype, but properly peer-to-peer?
#65Try https://palava.tv/
It's open-source WebRTC.
Re: Ask HN: Skype, but properly peer-to-peer?
#66Just use Skype. It's been my experience that the way to technological bliss is through reducing friction by using what everyone else is using. For voice and video over IP, that's Skype.
Have you tried to talk an elderly relative through installing Skype on Windows 8 over a phone line when you can't see their screen and don't use Windows?
It has to be easier - there has to be a better way.
Re: Ask HN: Skype, but properly peer-to-peer?
#67This should work with WebRTC ( http://www.webrtc.org/ ) using the reference app: https://apprtc.appspot.com/ It should enable you to connect 2 browsers (e.g. Chrome and Firefox), all you need is to transmit the ID of the chat ("r" parameter from the chat URL you will get) to the peer, or the full URL. It keeps amazing me that we do not have simple JS solutions for this, when projects like Chatroulette can be built in…
Here is a open source WebRTC experiment from Mozilla (Ryan Seys): http://tincan.im/
Re: Ask HN: Skype, but properly peer-to-peer?
#68Just use Skype. It's been my experience that the way to technological bliss is through reducing friction by using what everyone else is using. For voice and video over IP, that's Skype.
Have you tried to talk an elderly relative through installing Skype on Windows 8 over a phone line when you can't see their screen and don't use Windows? It has to be easier - there has to be a better way.
How about configuring and sending them an instance of TightVNC or UltraVNC (one or the other or both of those -- I forget), and then just using that channel to remote to their system? Downside (maybe): They can only talk with you, and there may not be a convenient mechanism for always-on and notifications.
(Or, doesn't the Chrome browser come with some sort of remote-enabling plug-in, these days?)
Otherwise, possibly configure your own server intermediary and use Jitsi or similar? Downside: They'll only be able to talk with people similarly configured (although you could set up several people this way).
The later is what I mean to move towards, Real Soon Now... :-/
P.S. It occurs to me now that you could use the remote access to get them configured for something else, as opposed to just to push a verbal-visual/"talk" communications channel over.
Re: Ask HN: Skype, but properly peer-to-peer?
#69This reminded me Richard Stallman's notes about the newly emerged Cloud Computing. He defined the CC as untrustable and advised to avoid. I'd suggest IP Telephones. Most of them are capable of making direct P2P connections without even any VoIP server. They only need an external STUN server to arrange the NAT configuration if you use the IP Phone behind a NAT router (which is almost always the case) There are many fr…
SIP/SIPS is nice. You can just use your IP[:port] as your phone number, and forwarding the required ports isn't too hard either if you're behind a NAT.
> SIP/SIPS is nice. You can just use your IP[:port] as your phone number
You just contradicted yourself.
Re: Ask HN: Skype, but properly peer-to-peer?
#70Check out Hutt ( http://hu.tt/ ). No account needed and you can instantly start video chatting with anyone who has a modern browser.
It says I need Chrome.