Don't marry if you are a guy. At present, marriage is a contract with no upside for you. You gain nothing from marriage that you can't get from a committed non-marital relationship, and stand to lose a lot.
Marriage is a way of saying "My intention is to spend the rest of my life with you as my partner." That means something to your partner. If you're not willing to say that, then that means something, too.
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
Marriage is a way of saying "My intention is to spend the rest of my life with you as my partner." That means something to your partner. If you're not willing to say that, then that means something, too.
I guess this conversation precludes same-sex couples.
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It used to be that marriage was a contract between you, your intended spouse, and God. Now, it is a contract between you, your intended spouse, and "The State". And therefore when you marry you are giving the State some measure of control over your life.
How so? Seems more like a contract between you and your spouse that has been approved of by the state.
If they had been married for 10 years then there would be Social Security implications etc. Plus I think they still force you to take a blood test ect.
PS: Separation of Church and State my ass.
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You can get all those things from a committed non-marital relationship. Marriage (by which I mean the contract enforced by your state) adds nothing to the mix beyond a massive financial liability (for the man) if the relationship ends. Read this article for an example of the bad results of marriage: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/17/magazine/17foreclosure-t.h...
I think you're still stuck with a financial liability if you decide to have kids with non person you aren't married to. Plus there are tax breaks for being married. But that is just monetary. In reality most people in the US aren't as inclined to have life partners without the marriage part. And frankly, there is something special about professing your commitment to another person in front of your community that some…
One gets big tax breaks for owing money to a bank for a mortgage loan or for having children, but not simply for being married. Hence the term "marriage penalty".
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
How so? Seems more like a contract between you and your spouse that has been approved of by the state.
Last friday I had to stand in front of a judge and say that two people where not living together for the last year so they could get a divorce in the state of Virginia. After 6 months of marriage it took a year, a judge, an attorney, and a witness, plus some cash to finally separate them. If they had been married for 10 years then there would be Social Security implications etc. Plus I think they still force you to t…
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Do we actually have data that shows later-in-life marriages are more successful? (besides the submitters anecdotal evidence)
http://www.divorcerate.org/ has the following for men: age rate So if you are just playing the numbers, wait until your late 20's at least. But please, don't play the numbers. As someone already said, don't try to plan love.
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2/3 of marriages that are the first for both partners end in death.
11 percent of murder victims were killed by an "intimate" http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/intimates.htm
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#69If you think of marriage as duty, responsibility, time commitment and compromise then it probably isn't compatible with doing a startup. But if you and your spouse love each other for being motivated, self-actualized, driven, and passionate, then a startup and marriage can be wonderfully complimentary. I actually really liked the movie Revolutionary Road for this reason -- it showed what happens when a guy who should…
This was one of my least favorite movies of all time until I read your take on it. Didn't think of comparing it to the startup life.
Re: Ask HN: Marriage
#70Don't marry if you are a guy. At present, marriage is a contract with no upside for you. You gain nothing from marriage that you can't get from a committed non-marital relationship, and stand to lose a lot.
Uh, you are aware of the concept of a pre-nup, right? I'm pretty sure a marriage + a solid pre-nuptial agreement would put you on much better legal/financial ground than a "committed non-martial relationship" without a written contract.