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Ask HN: Is there a bad employers (who have a records of not paying) list?

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Re: Ask HN: Is there a bad employers (who have a records of not paying) list?

#61

I don't know of any website that lists all employers who break contracts or miss payments. I might just create one. However, sometimes past contractors or clients leave reviews warning about unpaid freelance invoices or poor business ethics on review sites like Trustpilot.

I don't know that anyone can risk running such a site. There'd need to be a long trail of proof behind each claim, and proof is getting easier to manufacture by the day.

Section 230

Re: Ask HN: Is there a bad employers (who have a records of not paying) list?

#64
A startup I worked for many years ago did this. The founder would be like its okay you babe you got 1% equity or whatever And I would also be like I gotta pay my rent and buy groceries though...

That company went under in a year. Surprisingly...

The founder reached out in the years since talking about his new endeavor trying to get me to join the team. Ha. Jokes.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a bad employers (who have a records of not paying) list?

#65

Make it. I’ll add a few. These YC founders are not held accountable for their ridiculous behavior

will do.. I want this list because I don't want to see people needing to go through this again.

My situation was with this guy Derek, we signed a contract with a fixed monthly amount. 1 and a half years later, he told me the Israeli investor pulled the plug.

Ok, understandable, it's been 2 years, and he told me he doesn't have anything to do with the business anymore, so don't bother him. Guess what, he's got money to work on some other projects.

Feels like they know too well, they can just get away with it because going to court is gonna take ages. its BS.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a bad employers (who have a records of not paying) list?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like a Streissand effect waiting to happen. Besides, IANAL, but I'm sure plenty of people here could find a lawyer to file for an easy anti-SLAPP defense. Factual statements about bad employers are very much free speech. Judges aren't particularly fond of frivolous lawsuits. There are already mechanisms in place to quickly throw those away without wasting everyone's time and money.

> Factual statements about bad employers and how is this hypothetical website you're hyping supposed to uncover the factuality of statements random people from the internet are posting?

I guess it needs to be upvoted by other verified users? say if user A is claiming that user C hasn't paid the bill,l. User B can come in and verify it also happened to them. or they need to sign in using Linkedin for credibility. and provide text or photo evidence?

Re: Ask HN: Is there a bad employers (who have a records of not paying) list?

#67

An unethical company is likely would consider a lawsuit to put such private site out of business. A collection of unethical companies would be an exponentially higher risk to such site.

Require strict KYC of all reviewers. This should be no privacy concern since it's about B2B contracts that operate in public between two registered businesses. Don't publicize who wrote a review, but keep it on hand for subpoenas. You are probably not liable for defamation if you can identify who wrote the review - and they should be able to prove it's true. Ask a lawyer first of course.

yeah, I was thinking user can only register with valid Linkedin profile. We blur their images ofcourse, except for the person who owns, of course

Re: Ask HN: Is there a bad employers (who have a records of not paying) list?

#68

Country recorder has a list of judgements against people and entities found to be in breach of contract. This is what exists but probably not what you were thinking of.

nah, was thinking more like a solid list of the company's name, founders info that future contractors can look at so they can decide if they wanna work with them or not

Re: Ask HN: Is there a bad employers (who have a records of not paying) list?

#69

Make it. I’ll add a few. These YC founders are not held accountable for their ridiculous behavior

will do.. I want this list because I don't want to see people needing to go through this again. My situation was with this guy Derek, we signed a contract with a fixed monthly amount. 1 and a half years later, he told me the Israeli investor pulled the plug. Ok, understandable, it's been 2 years, and he told me he doesn't have anything to do with the business anymore, so don't bother him. Guess what, he's got money t…

Call it FounderRank. Just let people share stories like this.

Like RateMyProfessor but for founders, so people know who to avoid.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a bad employers (who have a records of not paying) list?

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post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know that anyone can risk running such a site. There'd need to be a long trail of proof behind each claim, and proof is getting easier to manufacture by the day.

Section 230

Oops, I didn't see this reply sooner.

Serving as authoritative source seems like the only value something like this could offer. If you're doing it under section 230, you can't curate - it's just whatever people post and is of much less value.

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