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Ask HN: Gmail spam filtering suddenly marking everything as spam?
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Re: Ask HN: Gmail spam filtering suddenly marking everything as spam?
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
They can tweak the subject to something not obviously spammy.
Obviousness in spam is a feature, they don't have to waste effort on people who know better.
This only applies to spam which requires significant follow-up effort from the spammer to respond to potential victims; effectively just 419 "advance-fee" fraud scams.
For spam which only does not require manual effort on the other side, there is no reason to filter out potential victims and all the more reason to make it look as legit as possible to maximize conversion rates.
Re: Ask HN: Gmail spam filtering suddenly marking everything as spam?
#63Briefly, this morning, I had the opposite effect happen to my Gmail inbox in which things that would normally land in the social and updates folders ended up in my primary folder. I don't know which I'd be more freaked out by: a broken Gmail spam filter or 18 inches of snow.
Concur, I've had Promotions land in my Primary inbox for at least a few hours.
Re: Ask HN: Gmail spam filtering suddenly marking everything as spam?
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
This has been “down” for me for a few months now, ever since Google tied this functionality to the same toggle that opts you in for using your email data for AI training. So now you can’t filter this stuff without also agreeing to a whole swath of unrelated and opt-ins. Ive since gone on an unsubscribe campaign, and things seem bearable now.
Same. Can’t ignore the messages when they’re all in one place, which makes hitting unsubscribe easier.
> which makes hitting unsubscribe easier.
wow, you really do that? Doesn't that just prove that the email address is read by a human and then promoted for even further SPAM to be delivered?
Re: Ask HN: Gmail spam filtering suddenly marking everything as spam?
#65I see nothing amiss on my oldest Gmail account. But then, I get probably even less that isn't an automatic notification of something or other that's already filtered and categorized by sender.
Re: Ask HN: Gmail spam filtering suddenly marking everything as spam?
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
I receive at least a dozen spam emails every day, sometimes as many as 60. Rarely does more than one per day show up in my main inbox. Why should I care who has my email address?
Well, spam is no big deal, and any scam that comes via email should not affect anyone who is educated and prepared for them. Of course, with a well-known email address, you could run a higher risk of credential stuffing, and an account takeover by someone who hijacks your email account, and then pivots from there to taking other accounts. But this seems to be a risk we all take: email addresses are meant to be shared…
Spammers, if minorly sophisticated, can strip those identifiers,
so wildcard mail acceptance on servicename@customdomain.com takes the crown if you’re setting this up fresh!
Re: Ask HN: Gmail spam filtering suddenly marking everything as spam?
#67Now, what about the Messages app? Starting last December I started receiving 10 spam SMS messages a day. Previously it was maybe one per week.
Control your phone number better.
Only answer numbers you recognize, everyone else gets voicemail.
Cell phone spam is a 10 year+ old memory for me.
Re: Ask HN: Gmail spam filtering suddenly marking everything as spam?
#68I don't understand why spam detection is so complicated. I can tell with high accuracy if an email is spam just by the subject line. I'd think even basic ML could do this very reliably you don't need a bleeding-edge LLM to do this. Phishing is tricker because it can be very deceptive especially if you're being targeted specifically. But also usually pretty obvious.
You can tell from your subject lines.
You cannot 100% tell from others’ subject lines,
if you don’t know them personally.
Re: Ask HN: Gmail spam filtering suddenly marking everything as spam?
#69I seem to be experiencing the opposite! Lots of spam flowing through.
Re: Ask HN: Gmail spam filtering suddenly marking everything as spam?
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
Same. Can’t ignore the messages when they’re all in one place, which makes hitting unsubscribe easier.
> which makes hitting unsubscribe easier. wow, you really do that? Doesn't that just prove that the email address is read by a human and then promoted for even further SPAM to be delivered?
The Promotions tab is for marketing from companies that generally respect unsubscribing, not out and out spam.