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Ask HN: How many of you are working in tech without a STEM degree?

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Re: Ask HN: How many of you are working in tech without a STEM degree?

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I have worked in software dev for over 40 years with no degree at all. Mostly self-taught, but I got quite a bit of employer-provided training and mentoring especially early in my career. I got recruited by a big company while in school, put university on hold and never got around to finishing. I'd have a history degree if I had gone back to school -- programming started as an interest and hobby for me, one that took…

I came here to ask OP if they mean "without STEM degree", "without STEM education" ... Would physics degree (while STEM, it's supposedly not as close to Software/Tech as math or other types of engineering studies).

Loads of such not strictly TECH folks end up in Big Tech as data scientists, as well as programmers.

I only have ~25 years of "work" experience. I finished electrical engineering/electronics highschool (in parts of Europe you're 18 y/o by the time you finish highschool). And then just as I started with (computers focused) EE College - I also started freelancing. I started making websites/scripts/etc in the early 2000s.

It turned into full time contracting, and then even moving countries for "Software Engineering" job - all before I finished college.

Anyway - although in the last 2-5 years (Covid/Wars/etc) it became less common for companies to accept "graduates".

My impression is that it's more about hiring freeze in general, than the more recent "AI makes 100x developers possible" hype.

And by "graduates" I've seen both young folks with tech education but 0 work experience, as well as no (complete or at all official) tech education yet self taught and much more "work experience" from personal projects, competitions, hackathons.

And of course there's also other tech stuff - UX/design, db/net/sys admins and such.

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I have no degree at all. I’ve been doing software development professionally for around seven years now. Like many, I’ve started programming as a hobby as a child, around 11 or 12. I got pigeonholed quickly into enterprise development, mostly at non tech companies of various sizes. I knew I never wanted to work as a software dev professionally. I had other plans initially that fell through. However I found myself in…

Yeah this sounds familiar. I never wanted to be a programmer, and i don't love it, but nothing else will pay the bills so easily. I turned down a college scholarship because it was tied to learning programming. I've always had a passing interest but never wanted to do it as a job. Now here we are.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are working in tech without a STEM degree?

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An introductory lesson in BASIC programming on the Apple II sparked the flame when I was eight or nine, and I was enthusiastically self-taught from then on. After I got online in the early '90s, and developed a reputation for helpfulness in certain programming forums, people started offering me contract work - either not knowing or not caring that I was just a teenager. Anybody capable of operating a compiler could get paid to do it back then!

Three semesters into college, not yet having taken any CS classes, this little consulting business had grown so much that I was turning away more work than I had time to accept. Why should I bother finishing a degree, I had to ask, when I already have a career throwing itself at me?

It's worked out fine; I've been writing code for a living ever since. I've worked for a few of the bigcos, but I prefer smaller companies. Some applications work, from time to time, but mostly dev tools, or system software. I like compilers; currently working on a tensor compiler for an ML system.

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My dad was a computer programmer, so we were doing basic on apple2 from a young age. I did actually do one year of a cs degree but dropped out to focus on juggling. Yes.

Later on I got back into programming because of electronic juggling equipment. The pro stuff is so expensive despite being just LEDs with batteries and microcontrollers! So anyway I went down the path of learning embedded, making my own equipment including hardware.

It turns out that compared to low level c++, programming for web isn't that different. In some ways it's easier. That's good because during COVID I had to take a break from live entertainment, and managed to make a living doing data science type web stuff (working for my sister, who finished her degree and had a research grant).

Right now I'm back on the embedded scene but combining with web to make IoT juggling equipment (in partnership with a hardware company because I suck at hardware). Product coming soon!

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are working in tech without a STEM degree?

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No degree or formal education, enjoyed math at school. Helped a colleague finish college which helped solidify my math.

Spend 10 years as a sw dev, then went into VFX and design. Working in automotive design at a major OEM now.

I needed my career shifts really badly and wish the younger generation would have similar opportunities.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are working in tech without a STEM degree?

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I have a CIS degree, which is from the business school, not engineering.

I work, or have worked, with people who have no degrees and went right into the workforce, have their experience through the military, or have completely unrelated degrees, like geology.

I often feel like I’m in the minority as someone with a degree. Though I think that may have shifted somewhat, but no one ever talks about it. College and degrees almost never come up. Of the people currently on my team, I only know the background of a couple, who I’ve worked with for almost 20 years. The others, I have no clue.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are working in tech without a STEM degree?

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I would venture to say that most people working in tech do not have a STEM degree. To answer your question: I got into computers and programming when I was 8 years old in the 1970s, and haven't stopped.

To counter this, I'm the only one out of dozens of colleagues who does not have an STEM background (I didn't do very well at school either). During interviews my lack of degree is often brought up - usually asking if I accidentally forgot to add it to my CV. At first it was tough but now I'm two decades deep into a career in Ops.

Where are you based? In my 32-year career, it has only ever come up twice, and the second time surprised everyone involved; I wonder what accounts for the difference.
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