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Re: Ask HN: Where After WordPress?

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Post by jjwarmerdam »

AnonHP wrote: post #54
jjwarmerdam wrote: post #32

I have been using kirby ( https://getkirby.com/ ) for all my websites with great success the last few years. It's super stable, flexible, under active development and has a great ecosystem. Can't recommend it enough.

I recall this being mentioned before and I thought I’d take a look. One thing missing on this site is a clear pricing page and pricing link in the menu and/or footer. Only the license page mentions that it is not free and that a paid license is required.

There is a clear "Buy" link in the header which hints it's a paid product, but maybe you're right and thats not clear enough.

Re: Ask HN: Where After WordPress?

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Post by oliwarner »

Astro. It's not the same, it's a static site generator, but with a few edge functions for server-side stuff if you need it. Deploys to Cloudflare or another CI/CD environment for free.

The biggest difference for daily use is you don't get an editor. You can pick your markup language (markdown being the most popular) then it's just files. If you're a developer this should be natural.

Re: Ask HN: Where After WordPress?

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Post by ThinkBeat »

ryanmitchell wrote: post #58
ThinkBeat wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Source available (?) and licenses get expensive quick it looks like (?) When I last did my survey of what I could use as a CMS I ran into this, looked at the licensing and walked away quickly. But I may be wrong since I didn't do any more research, .

Source available yes. There is platform licensing starting at $7 per month per site. Prices are comparable to Wordpress + Jetstream + ACF which is functionality you get out of the box with Statamic.

The price of $7 license is only available at a 25 site minimum that makes the minimum cost $175 per month around $2100 yer year.

For a pro license it's $275 upfront with 1 year of updates per site.

That is damn exception from my point of view.

You can use Pods for free on WordPress which is now a better choice than ACF in my opinion. But ACF has a huge marketshare and is better supported.

I mean not sure about JetStream, it seems to be Laravel scaffolding and open source.

Do you mean JetPack? If so I have not used that in a very long time. It had become very bloated.

There are a lot of other choices ut there som that cost less.

Re: Ask HN: Where After WordPress?

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Post by bubblesnort »

0. Install Airplane Mode on your WordPress and keep it enabled

1. Try ClassicPress

2. Move to Drupal

3. See if you like something else. E.g. BoltCMS, OctoberCMS, or one of the october forks.

4. Go back to Joomla

5. Quit your job and do something you'd like to be doing

Re: Ask HN: Where After WordPress?

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Post by partiallypro »

WordPress isn't going anywhere, even if it's via a fork. It's too large and has so many contributors. It may lose some market share over this, but there's a massive, vested interest in at least keeping the spirit and general code base of it alive. Matt bit off more than he can chew, but I wouldn't worry too much about it at the moment. I think it's very possible that during the discovery phase of the lawsuit that Matt is forced out entirely. Not many companies want a massive legal liability at the helm.

Re: Ask HN: Where After WordPress?

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Post by matfrana »

ozten wrote: post #18

This space grew into a bunch of different sub-cutures: - static website generators (Hugo, etc) - WYSIWYG editors (Wix, Squarespace) - Frontends (NextJs, etc) backed by Headless CMS (Strapi, firebase, etc) There really isn't a good spiritual successor currently. Someone should clone the UX of WP Admin panel, plugins, etc and drop the worst tech debt. Base it on React and make it really easy to deploy. (edit: formattin…

There are also the so called "universal CMS", which are headless but with a frontend SDK to achieve the same WYSIWYG, but with a modern frontend framework and deciding exactly what content editors can do. See for example React Bricks.

Re: Ask HN: Where After WordPress?

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Post by pathartl »

mortenjorck wrote: post #17
pathartl wrote: post #10

I've moved my personal site/blog over to Grav. I've done some small work with Statamic before and loved it.

For a small site with relatively technical administration, Grav is unsurpassed. I've been using it for years for my portfolio and various side projects, and it is a joy to build with. For a larger site with multiple contributors, I'd probably still stick to Wordpress, though. Its admin experience and ecosystem are just too mature to not take advantage of.

This is why I recommend people look into Statamic. It's absolutely smaller than WordPress, but it's set up for the professional community so there is an environment of plugins, themes, etc. It's also built on top of a Laravel foundation, so you're not stranded having to do things "the WordPress way".

Re: Ask HN: Where After WordPress?

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Post by pierreburgy »

As a JavaScript person, you will probably want to start using JavaScript frontend frameworks like React/Next.js, Vue/Nuxt.js, Astro, etc. These frameworks allow you to build very fast websites, without page reload.

You can connect these frontend frameworks with a Headless CMS which is, ideally, open-source and written in JavaScript/TypeScript too. This way, you can customize both the frontend and the CMS using the same programming language.

We created Strapi, the most popular open-source Headless CMS, to replace legacy stacks with full JS stacks: from the frontend framework to the CMS.

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