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Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by Gigachad »

conradev wrote: post #25
virgildotcodes wrote: post #23

I feel like I would have been the ideal customer for it. I travel a lot and I'm a developer deep in the Apple ecosystem who is constantly wishing he had more screen real estate while bouncing between hotels and Airbnbs every few weeks. I bought it and tried it for two weeks and ended up returning it. It's really cool, but even aside from the issues with 1.0 like not being able to just pull up individual app windows f…

Very much agreed. Here is the pair of Raybans with a USB-C cable sticking out: https://www.viture.com/store?pid=9412104487193 It works with phones, too, which is cool!

Why do the glasses look photoshopped on to the models? Surely it wouldn’t have been that hard to take a photo of someone actually wearing them.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by brailsafe »

meiraleal wrote: post #39
virgildotcodes wrote: post #23

I feel like I would have been the ideal customer for it. I travel a lot and I'm a developer deep in the Apple ecosystem who is constantly wishing he had more screen real estate while bouncing between hotels and Airbnbs every few weeks. I bought it and tried it for two weeks and ended up returning it. It's really cool, but even aside from the issues with 1.0 like not being able to just pull up individual app windows f…

I'm waiting for the Freeza Scouter model (Dragon ball Z). One full imersed eye and ear experience. That's the perfect ergonomics.

All we really need is the ability to check someone's power level anyway, what the hell else would convince me to put digital glasses on for!?

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by Gigachad »

appendix-rock wrote: post #47
underlogic wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's up with Raybans? They make the cheapest looking vanilla generic glasses I've ever seen, put a tacky logo on the lens and sell for a fortune. Why does anyone buy them?

I’m genuinely not sure how to say this without a little bit of snark, but do you…know how fashion works?

Sunglasses do seem to be taking the piss more than other items. An expensive pair of leather shoes can easily be justified by the cost of the materials, manual labor, build quality, and extended lifespan over cheaper options.

While sunglasses seem to be a bit of injection moulded plastic with some lenses for a 20x markup.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by zmmmmm »

virgildotcodes wrote: post #23

I feel like I would have been the ideal customer for it. I travel a lot and I'm a developer deep in the Apple ecosystem who is constantly wishing he had more screen real estate while bouncing between hotels and Airbnbs every few weeks. I bought it and tried it for two weeks and ended up returning it. It's really cool, but even aside from the issues with 1.0 like not being able to just pull up individual app windows f…

> it doesn't take over your whole world and sensory system and thus alienate you from everyone and everything around you.

You sound like you are fundamentally unsuited to the device. You move around a lot and don't like being isolated. I work in my Quest 3 primarily because it isolates me and takes over my whole sensory system. I love going to work on beaches, mountain tops, or co-working with friends or colleagues virtually. You sound like you want literally the opposite of all that.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by zmmmmm »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #31
conradev wrote: post #25

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Very much agreed. Here is the pair of Raybans with a USB-C cable sticking out: https://www.viture.com/store?pid=9412104487193 It works with phones, too, which is cool!

I tried a pair of those and returned them because the whole screen flying around was really disorienting.

The latest ones do have solutions for that (head locked vs space locked displays). This also was one of my requirements, but now I'm actively considering them. The main thing holding me back now is that the tech is improving so rapidly that picking a time to buy in is hard.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by Gigachad »

brookst wrote: post #34
amelius wrote: post #24

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Sounds like Apple's product designers failed here.

Nah, it was the right call. Advertising it at nearly 2x the weight so X% of people find it more comfortable is a bad trade off. I use mine all the time and don’t notice the weight. Perhaps because I use various types of helmets frequently. It is far far far less noticeable than a motorcycle helmet, and far less noticeable than a good full face bike helmet.

I haven’t tried the Apple vision, but from other VR products, the problem isn’t the weight on your head, it’s where it’s distributed. Having all that weight resting on your cheeks quickly becomes uncomfortable and makes the muscles on your face sore.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by jfoster »

virgildotcodes wrote: post #23

I feel like I would have been the ideal customer for it. I travel a lot and I'm a developer deep in the Apple ecosystem who is constantly wishing he had more screen real estate while bouncing between hotels and Airbnbs every few weeks. I bought it and tried it for two weeks and ended up returning it. It's really cool, but even aside from the issues with 1.0 like not being able to just pull up individual app windows f…

The visual quality of the Apple Vision Pro is extremely far ahead of any other headset. I generally don't like Apple products and I think they made plenty of mistakes with Vision Pro, but the visual quality is exceptional for our time.

I wouldn't advise anyone to buy it, but I would strongly encourage everyone to try it out in an Apple Store.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by steelframe »

karlgkk wrote: post #11

Yes, I do. It’s an amazing monitor and combination iPad. It’s very different than what is easy to describe - partially because it defies convention in so many ways - but I use it with my Mac and then will have mail and chat and music floating on the sides. Btw I said iPad. Apple says it’s a computer. Falls short in some key ways, but not unfixable It is heavy but I don’t mind it. I can see how that might be a deal br…

> tea tastes fine through a metal straw

I can't help but think about this story every time I hear someone talk about metal straws.

https://www.today.com/health/health/metal-straw-punctures-th...

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by benoau »

miki123211 wrote: post #28
rgarrett88 wrote: post #20

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I'm of the opinion that Apple will never natively allow unmanaged code outside macOS due to app store revenue. I mean if the AVP fails it would be a huge write down but if it wins and allows people to circumvent the Apple tax that's still a fail for the company.

You could still do enforcement through legal rather than technical means, though. Disallow installing apps from outside the App Store, provide no system UI to do so. Prohibit apps from being app stores themselves or running code that didn't pass app review, with exceptions for dev tools etc. Make apps able to escape the sandbox, at least in some ways. Even if an app somehow sneaks past app review and gives users unfe…

Your ideas are explicitly illegal in the EU and, if the law ever passes, would be illegal in the US too. Frankly I think we are past having to figure out ways for Apple to tax software usage in all circumstances, just wait for the law to catch up and it's all moot. In fact, just the Epic case seeks to rewrite what amounts to 70% of App Store spending: gacha games being able to link to their own billing options.

> The legislation aims to prevent Big Tech companies from "self-preferencing" their own products at the expense of competitors.[3] Under AICO, covered platforms would be forbidden from disadvantaging other companies' products or services.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Innovation_and_Choice...

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by tippytippytango »

conradev wrote: post #25
virgildotcodes wrote: post #23

I feel like I would have been the ideal customer for it. I travel a lot and I'm a developer deep in the Apple ecosystem who is constantly wishing he had more screen real estate while bouncing between hotels and Airbnbs every few weeks. I bought it and tried it for two weeks and ended up returning it. It's really cool, but even aside from the issues with 1.0 like not being able to just pull up individual app windows f…

Very much agreed. Here is the pair of Raybans with a USB-C cable sticking out: https://www.viture.com/store?pid=9412104487193 It works with phones, too, which is cool!

I tried these with much excitement. Unfortunately they give me immediate eye strain and headaches. The optics need a tremendous amount of work. 1080p is also not enough. But some people love them. It’s a product you just have to try and see if it works for you and return if they don’t.
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