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Ask HN: What's Your Experience with eSIMs?

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eSIMs are fantastic! Except that they just make me even more irate with various service providers that don't work with them, or don't work with the VOIP number that I use when using data-only SIMs. Seriously, my Airbnb account has been broken for TWO MONTHS because Airbnb: 1. Uses SMS (only) for 2FA. For a fucking international travel company. 2. They don't support VOIP numbers for SMS 2FA. An issue I reported to the…

In between this and hidden cameras, I am better off not using Airbnb.

Re: Ask HN: What's Your Experience with eSIMs?

#62
As someone who has worked in the telco industry for over 30 years now, I like eSIMs as a _secondary_ method of using services but avoid them as much as possible for any of my critical numbers — simply because I want to be able to move my SIM to another phone in an emergency without needing to visit a store.

In an age where phone authentication is still absolutely critical (banking and all sorts of online services still rely on texting you six-digit codes instead of relying on TOTP air stronger non-phone-number-dependent methods), being without my phone number for a day or more when I’m stuck in the middle of nowhere is completely untenable.

Also, eSIM implementations range from ultra-smooth to hilariously bad. There are still providers (I’m looking at you, Vodafone Portugal) that absolutely require you to buy, unwrap and scan a physical piece of paper with a QR code printed on it, like an animal, _because they actually keep inventory_ of those printed pieces of paper.

Yes, it’s as if the Industrial Revolution was still getting started at telcos.

Anyway, the above is why I will always get devices with physical SIM slots for as long as I possibly can—-and when I can’t, I will likely incur the expense of getting a secondary phone where I can reactivate my critical numbers myself without visiting a store.

They’re great for IoT devices and Internet access, but a liability if you still require receiving texts at a given number for anything important as if your phone dies, you’re SOL—-and nobody in the industry cares about that, or about ensuring travelers can re-activate eSIMs in foreign countries where their provider simply doesn’t exist.

Re: Ask HN: What's Your Experience with eSIMs?

#63
I had to get an eSIM for my watch - it's also from O2, but in Germany. It's basically a copy of the physical SIM I have in my phone and it worked perfectly. My only bother is that they charge me 15 euros activation fee everytime I reset my watch. I can't set it on the watch without activating it, even if it's activated

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#64

Found it to be a really unpleasant experience using Airalo in Europe on an iPhone. Maybe user error, but everyone in our group had confusing issues. Lots of problems with the phone forgetting the home number meant it was hard to get messages with iMessage, and no SMS caused a big mess with local businesses and with 2 factor/fraud detection. No phone number was also an issue a few times. I don’t know what we did wrong…

This is on you for relying on SMS. Switch to a proper 2FA app or at least to Google Voice.

I find SMS in roaming quite an adventurous endeavour anyway. Some will come, some will get quietly lost, some will err in sending, some will come in many copies at the same time of day (I'm looking at you MMS), some will arrive only when I'm back home, it's a total mess.

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#65
My experience - I've bought a two sim phone this year to use two different physical sim cards. :) Experience of my colleague - he couldn't transfer his esim from old iphone to a new one, due to the unrelated but still unresolved govt. issue. Basically the phone was linked to a certain service, that service has expired/blocked due to inactivity, and without working service esim can't be moved. It's not esim tech fault obviously but if it was a physical sim the issue would be solved in a minute, regardless of the external issues.

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#67
In India, I’ve been using eSIM for a few years now (on iPhone, not Android). It’s been working quite well. Transferring eSIM from one iPhone to another works fine. Activation of an eSIM takes a few hours, at the most. Due to regulations, there are restrictions placed on sending and receiving SMSes for the first two days.

The only hindrance I’ve seen is that to get an eSIM in the first place, an SMS has to be sent from the phone even though the eSIM activation QR code is sent over email (and the registration of an email address is also possible online). In some cases, like switching from one type of plan to another (postpaid to prepaid), this would require getting a physical SIM card (that’s the default for any connection), using it from a phone that has a physical SIM slot and then using that for the SMS.

Re: Ask HN: What's Your Experience with eSIMs?

#69

eSIM is amazing for purchasing roaming internet while traveling. There is a eSIM aggregator that I can recommend: https://esimdb.com/

they also work as soon as you get off the plane! so you don't have to waste time buying an overpriced SIM at the airport while jet-lagged in a foreign language at a kiosk that may be closed.

Re: Ask HN: What's Your Experience with eSIMs?

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post #62

As someone who has worked in the telco industry for over 30 years now, I like eSIMs as a _secondary_ method of using services but avoid them as much as possible for any of my critical numbers — simply because I want to be able to move my SIM to another phone in an emergency without needing to visit a store. In an age where phone authentication is still absolutely critical (banking and all sorts of online services sti…

Yeah, I learnt this the hard way.
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