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Ask HN: How are you finding the job market in July 2024?

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Re: Ask HN: How are you finding the job market in July 2024?

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The current annual inflation rate is 2.97%.

Here[0]. Look at post-2020. The rate might have now reduced a little, but it's still stacked on top of the previous higher inflation since 2020. [0] https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=WAVo

But "fixing" that with deflation would be a cure worse than the disease.

Re: Ask HN: How are you finding the job market in July 2024?

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It’s been a year ago today I got laid off. I have had a handful in interviews in the past year. The year before I had 5 interviews a week. I’m in Silicon Valley and a software engineer.

That's kind of crazy to me.. what kinda of skillset/experience do you have? I'm still getting regular recruiter spam here in The Netherlands. Even though June/July/August are dead months.

mostly javascript, react, vue svelte, node.js etc the past 10 years. I started in 1995...so I'm chalking it up to ageism.

Re: Ask HN: How are you finding the job market in July 2024?

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If I get laid off, I'm going to see about a career change. These threads invoke too much anxiety for me.

I’m going through this right now, I used to be a carpenter and a farmer. About 15 years ago, I went into tech to pay for kids in the city. To some extent most of the jobs I find in tech seem to me to be societal busy work. And the people that make those jobs seem to take themselves a bit too seriously. I’m considering moving back to trades work instead of finding another infra job. I’ve had time to get my stuff sorte…

> To some extent most of the jobs I find in tech seem to me to be societal busy work. And the people that make those jobs seem to take themselves a bit too seriously.

I’m not sure if this is what you’re talking about, but people outside of the technical roles in this industry rarely seem to have the same curiosity and passion developers do. Is it easy to name other industries where this is true? CS is vast and young, and I’ve always found that exciting. The potential for new frontiers, even at lowly engineering applications like ours, made me want to do this work. Yet lots of managers lack even basic curiosity and sometimes make silly, bad decisions as a result. It can be hard to work alongside that.

Re: Ask HN: How are you finding the job market in July 2024?

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It depends... I've been working remotely the past few years for about 40-50% above local market rates excluding a fairly long 7-month unemployment (planned on 3 months down, but took much longer). I have been approached a bit (few emails a week) for local, in-office jobs at local market rates. YMMV.

Role? Specialty? YoE?

Re: Ask HN: How are you finding the job market in July 2024?

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If I get laid off, I'm going to see about a career change. These threads invoke too much anxiety for me.

I’m going through this right now, I used to be a carpenter and a farmer. About 15 years ago, I went into tech to pay for kids in the city. To some extent most of the jobs I find in tech seem to me to be societal busy work. And the people that make those jobs seem to take themselves a bit too seriously. I’m considering moving back to trades work instead of finding another infra job. I’ve had time to get my stuff sorte…

> used to be a carpenter and a farmer

Of course lots of office jobs are busywork by comparison to carpentry and farming.

I'd guess farmers also aren't playing politics, and gaming metrics, for promotions.

Farmers also reap what they sow, to so speak. And don't plan to job hop before the chickens come home to roost, on resume-driven-farming technology choices.

Re: Ask HN: How are you finding the job market in July 2024?

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post #63

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I’m going through this right now, I used to be a carpenter and a farmer. About 15 years ago, I went into tech to pay for kids in the city. To some extent most of the jobs I find in tech seem to me to be societal busy work. And the people that make those jobs seem to take themselves a bit too seriously. I’m considering moving back to trades work instead of finding another infra job. I’ve had time to get my stuff sorte…

> To some extent most of the jobs I find in tech seem to me to be societal busy work. And the people that make those jobs seem to take themselves a bit too seriously. I’m not sure if this is what you’re talking about, but people outside of the technical roles in this industry rarely seem to have the same curiosity and passion developers do. Is it easy to name other industries where this is true? CS is vast and young,…

Not entirely, what I mean is more that a lot of companies, even ‘disrupters’, are really just figuring out how to be a middle man of something that is already happening and taking a cut.

A lot of the products genuinely kinda suck, and it just feels like busy work to me sometimes.

I don’t think most of that comes out of tech, it’s product and business picking these directions and features but it’s pretty disheartening none the less.

Re: Ask HN: How are you finding the job market in July 2024?

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It feels like recruiters and HR have wedged themselves into being an untouchable block between candidates and hiring managers. Those in the wedge have no incentives for actually connecting candidates to the needs of the employer so the wedge keeps getting larger and stronger. Companies are too scared of their HR departments to stand up to them. They're basically commissars that have a MAD pact with the company should…

Everything about large companies is currently broken and irrational or outright corrupt. Yet those companies just keep succeeding.

And yeah, it's due to government protection and monopoly power. Some country will eventually decide to work for its people and will become a hugely prosperous place out of nowhere, taking everyone by surprise. But everyone else will keep hearing that "it can't work that way here".

Re: Ask HN: How are you finding the job market in July 2024?

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post #65

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I’m going through this right now, I used to be a carpenter and a farmer. About 15 years ago, I went into tech to pay for kids in the city. To some extent most of the jobs I find in tech seem to me to be societal busy work. And the people that make those jobs seem to take themselves a bit too seriously. I’m considering moving back to trades work instead of finding another infra job. I’ve had time to get my stuff sorte…

> used to be a carpenter and a farmer Of course lots of office jobs are busywork by comparison to carpentry and farming. I'd guess farmers also aren't playing politics, and gaming metrics, for promotions. Farmers also reap what they sow, to so speak. And don't plan to job hop before the chickens come home to roost, on resume-driven-farming technology choices.

Nope, bushels per acre baby

Re: Ask HN: How are you finding the job market in July 2024?

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Trump's policies (lower taxes, higher tariffs & trade wars) are highly inflationary. Interest rates will have to go up during a Trump presidency to compensate.

He'll probably see that as an issue for the president after him

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