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Ask HN: Those who have recently undertaken a job hunt, what was your experience?

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Re: Ask HN: Those who have recently undertaken a job hunt, what was your experience?

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Mixed bag. 2020 was my best year ever job wise, I was making a stupid amount of money. In 2023 I took a massive pay cut, we're talking over 50k, but it's still better than nothing. Now I'm somewhat close to my peak, fully remote. Not the most I've ever earned, but in very comfortable.

I was over employed in '21 and 22. First 2 then 3 jobs. Then got laid off from all 3 before '23. Make hay while the sun shines

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No harm meant, many/most companies I've dealt recently with have young women doing their recruiting.

I suppose calling them “girls” seems very strange to me, presumably they’re all adults.

It’s colloquially

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Honest question: why was race and gender even /on/ your application in the first place? Do you mean the EEO questions that they ask -- because those are absolutely not supposed to be part of the application. Or do you mean you have it on your resume? Because... why?

For the vast majority of people you can tell by given name and surname. You get around this by picking a gender-ambiguous nickname and using that as your given name. Ariel, Logan, Dakota, Drew, Jordan, etc. Surnames are harder, but you're aiming for ambiguity. Williams, Johnson, Smith, Jones and Brown -- e.g., the five most common African American surnames. Other options like Kim and Lee will also get you far here.

I could see a different given name, but a different surname? Won't that throw up some red flags once HR starts on boarding you? Or what about referrals, gotta make sure to coordinate with them.

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I got lucky in that I have a pretty good network of ex colleagues. One coffee with a ex colleague led me to reach out to another ex colleague who sang my praises to a recruiter. Once that happened I did my best to crush every interview through to a very good offer. Cold applying just doesn’t work unless you can be one of the first to apply and be seen by a recruiter when they first look at the queue. Networking is the #1 way to go.

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For the vast majority of people you can tell by given name and surname. You get around this by picking a gender-ambiguous nickname and using that as your given name. Ariel, Logan, Dakota, Drew, Jordan, etc. Surnames are harder, but you're aiming for ambiguity. Williams, Johnson, Smith, Jones and Brown -- e.g., the five most common African American surnames. Other options like Kim and Lee will also get you far here.

I could see a different given name, but a different surname? Won't that throw up some red flags once HR starts on boarding you? Or what about referrals, gotta make sure to coordinate with them.

I said harder. Like change your name hard.

One company I worked for hired a woman once who had a completely fraudulent identity and gave different identification entirely to the person we were interviewing/hired and she justified it to HR saying she was running away from an abusive relationship. Her paychecks were even different than the name in the employee directory!

We only found out long after she'd stopped working with us when she made the news for trying to murder a stranger while high on drugs. She had made the news and was on camera with a completely unfamiliar name to us.

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Did you also remove some roles so that it looks like you're younger? I've heard that is the only way to get interviews these days as senior cvs are getting thrown out (too old, too expensive)

I thought they weren't hiring entry level devs anymore because the higher ups think that AI can do those jobs?

They hire people in their 20s to do senior roles on the cheap, they throw away people that are 30s or older (if you’re 40 you might as well be dead) as they are seen as expensive

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JS jobs are always an overpaid race to the bottom, but now they are looking for minimum 8 years of experience. I have way more experience than that, which causes recruiters to foam at the mouth, but I got tired of the unnecessary fashion and stupidity even though I was laid off. Fortunately somebody found me and offered me something different. I am making far less than I could as a lead fullstack engineer, but I am also not working with entitled children or Dunning-Kruger nonsense.

Re: Ask HN: Those who have recently undertaken a job hunt, what was your experience?

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It's been pretty brutal recently, as someone who's been applying to jobs in the last few months or so. Requirements for roles seem to be far higher than they used to be, with even Frontend or Backend specific ones requiring knowledge of 2-3 languages or frameworks associated with the other side. Salaries seem to be lower than they were a few years ago, with many terrible jobs being advertised with salaries that no one could live on in the areas they're based (London from my experience).

The actual process has been just as bad too. Lots of jobs have hundreds of applicants, regardless of the amount of experience or number of skills required. Many won't get back to you at all after applying, meaning the only way to tell if the job has been filled is if it vanishes from online portals. And even for those that do respond, it feels there are a lot more companies rejecting candidates at the drop of a hat, or ghosting them after the first or second stage of the interview process.

Recruiters do seem to have started calling more often than earlier though, so it seems like there may be a tiny bit of improvement compared to the end of 2023/start of 2024. But still, in this climate, my advice would be to only change job if you're very confident things will work out, and to rely on contacts and networking rather than formal application processes. Any option to skip the 'apply to an online listing with hundreds of other candidates and pray' setup is going to be a lifeline about now.

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