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Ask HN: How is the Spotify app so bad?

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Re: Ask HN: How is the Spotify app so bad?

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I remember I tried something and it did not work, but now I found 2 different toggles with autoplay. Maybe something changed again? Who knows, now it seems to work, thx for the hint .. Edit: nope, it does not work and just plays on

Weird, maybe you had something in the queue? I think the no autoplay feature works on the level of the queue, meaning it will stop when the queue is empty. But the rules for when the queue is reset aren't very clear, or at least I frequently end up with more stuff queued up than I though would be on there.

I know I did not put something in the queue. (Finding the queue alone is a struggle).

But there is an endless auto generated list of songs that come next ..

It is just bad UI.

Re: Ask HN: How is the Spotify app so bad?

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Apple Music and Tidal are the only two with high-res audio. And since they often encode from the 24-bit studio masters you will get better audio quality than ripping from CDs yourself and likely from most “pay as you go” sites.

I'll add another to that list: Qobuz. High-res music, good selection. I've been a paying subscriber for a few years now and can recommend it.

Looks great and nice to find companies that still care about music.

I wish Spotify would stop giving money to Joe Rogan and instead invest in hi-res audio.

It’s ridiculous that we are in 2024 and they still don’t have it.

Re: Ask HN: How is the Spotify app so bad?

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I recently moved from Apple Music to Spotify to see what all the fuss is about, thinking it might get me listening to more music, or different stuff than Apple keeps playing. Using it feels like work and I don’t really get the how they expect users to use the app. I’m tempted to go see if there is a video from the designers explaining their vision so I can use it right. As of now it seems like a mess. Also, their AI…

Apple Music has nice "radio" channels. One based on your preferences, many based on genres or periods ("downtempo", "90's" etc.) and you can also start one from any song and it will play similar ones.

Spotify does as well. In fact I think they had this feature before Apple Music was released

Re: Ask HN: How is the Spotify app so bad?

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I'll add another to that list: Qobuz. High-res music, good selection. I've been a paying subscriber for a few years now and can recommend it.

Looks great and nice to find companies that still care about music. I wish Spotify would stop giving money to Joe Rogan and instead invest in hi-res audio. It’s ridiculous that we are in 2024 and they still don’t have it.

Amazon prime music launched with high-res also.

In fact they had such a large selection of high res albums that it was downright suspicious. Albums and bands that never had releases on hdtracks, from decades ago, had 24bit streaming on prime

Really makes you think. There are quite a few blogs that open “high-res” releases in a spectrum analyzer and point out where the frequency cutoff is. They just re-encoded the original without any remastering.

Spotify went for the bigger market instead of the small niche of dubious gains. Can’t say I blame them. They have a lot of competition in 2024

Re: Ask HN: How is the Spotify app so bad?

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Podcast is one of two the reasons I've unsubscribed Spotify (as you describe, the UX is terrible). The other one, I was not able to "teach" the algorithm what I like even after 3 months.

Same, canceled my subscription of nearly 10 years last week. It felt like every inch of the interface was being used to push podcasts in my face. I came to Spotify to play music and discover new music. Both of those were getting more difficult to do, so now I use YouTube Music (which I was already paying for via YouTube Premium).

Re: Ask HN: How is the Spotify app so bad?

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Can anyone suggest a minimalist music streaming platform? I'm looking for a digital substitute for collecting CDs, something similar to the old iTunes. Maybe Apple Music is the right choice, or are there other options available?

A plex server with the Plexamp player.

I purchase FLAC on bandcamp and add them to my plex library. The mobile app lets me stream and download to the device from anywhere

It’s the modern day equivalent of collecting CDs. These releases will never leave the platform and you own it outright.

They even launched a suggested playlist feature based on ML analysis of your library. It’s not half bad

Re: Ask HN: How is the Spotify app so bad?

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Enshittification - it's the most powerful force in software development.

When you have investors pushing money to spend, project managers that have to show something, and hordes of developers under your employ, even the best software experiences will succumb to feature bloat, change for the sake of change, and tooling churn.

Windows, Slack, and Spotify are perfect examples of once decent products that somehow get buggier, slower, and more confusing with every release.

Very few companies have the wherewithal to just pause, evaluate their product, and say: "nah, this is good".

Re: Ask HN: How is the Spotify app so bad?

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Yeah for me this is where spotify shines over their competition - how easy (and accurate) they make discovering new music. But I suppose 1 amazing feature doesn't make up for loads of cruft.

Are we talking about the same app? My experience of Spotify is that it's terrible for discovering new music - "artist radio" just gives me the same few songs and artists over and over, so if it's a genre where I already know most of the big, popular bands then very little of it is new or interesting. How do you use Spotify to discover new music? What am I doing wrong?

> My experience of Spotify is that it's terrible for discovering new music - "artist radio" just gives me the same few songs and artists over and over

Fully agree, they personalize the radios so heavily that I just get the same garbage over and over again (this is why I use spoqify.com, not a typo)

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