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Re: Ask HN: Do you homeschool?

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Post by aristofun »

olliej wrote: post #44
aristofun wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’s wrong with opposing any ideology? For example i am 100% for gender equality etc, but at the same time I am against if this becomes ideology. What’s wrong with that? It is an honest question.

The problem is when what you call an ideology is actually just “acceptance of people who are different”. No one is out there telling kids that they can’t be a binary gender, no one is saying you have to be a different gender from what you were assigned at birth. What they’re saying is that it’s ok for people to exist without being the binary gender they’re assigned at birth. So saying “I oppose this ideology” comes a…

> So saying “I oppose this ideology” comes across as

Nope. Only in your speculations maybe.

I oppose ideology means only what it is - being against an ideology. These days people succeeded in making ideology out of anything.

Ideology in simple words means "us vs them", it polarizes and radicalizes people. And this is what is dangerous.

So what's wrong with being against it? If it's not there (as you say), then nothing to worry about, right? Then no reason to downvote the original comment, no?

The fact it was downvoted and even redacted actually supports that there _is_ some ideology.

Because otherwise it was pretty harmless comment about state of things in general (even if wrong), not targeted to any individual or even a group.

Re: Ask HN: Do you homeschool?

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Post by eqvinox »

mharig wrote: post #58
eqvinox wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Somewhat redundant with the map in the sibling post, but it's Germany. This is obviously colored by my own cultural perspective, but homeschooling is seen like hereditary debt. Children have a right to build a life free from "faults" of their parents. Allowing children to be removed from the public school system is very broadly viewed as leaving them much worse equipped for their later life, not unlike had they inher…

Although I agree with your arguments, you forgot one or two things: Public schooling in Germany is near pure chalk and talk. This kills the natural motivational learning-by- playing habit in most of the children very effectively. The approaches of Waldorf, Montessori, etc are far better. Although not perfect. Public schooling transports the state propaganda. Although in nowadays Germany, it is more propaganda by igno…

> direct democracy

Yes, by looking at the Swiss system

> non-fiat money

Yes, we learned about ancient age bartering as well as inherent-value currency (i.e. gold coins)

> self-administration

Not sure what you're referring to here…

Re: Ask HN: Do you homeschool?

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Post by mharig »

eqvinox wrote: post #63
mharig wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Although I agree with your arguments, you forgot one or two things: Public schooling in Germany is near pure chalk and talk. This kills the natural motivational learning-by- playing habit in most of the children very effectively. The approaches of Waldorf, Montessori, etc are far better. Although not perfect. Public schooling transports the state propaganda. Although in nowadays Germany, it is more propaganda by igno…

> direct democracy Yes, by looking at the Swiss system > non-fiat money Yes, we learned about ancient age bartering as well as inherent-value currency (i.e. gold coins) > self-administration Not sure what you're referring to here…

Swiss' have not a real direct democracy. They, too, feed fuckin' politicians and their political idiocy. And the swiss bureaucracy is as bloated as in Germany, too.

And of course as a german Untertan you do not know what self-administration is.

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