Ask HN: What would you recommend a 16 year old to pursue career wise?
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Re: Ask HN: What would you recommend a 16 year old to pursue career wise?
#62I tell my kids (18(f) and 15(m)) to find out what they are really passionate about. Then we will try to find a career for that passion. Once we have that we will see what kind/level of formal education is needed to pursue that career. If you need a degree for that, well, work for that degree. Here in Germany most jobs are based on apprenticeship, so that is a very viable option. And part of that apprenticeship will b…
When has that advice ever worked, except for a very privileged few?
Re: Ask HN: What would you recommend a 16 year old to pursue career wise?
#63I tell my kids (18(f) and 15(m)) to find out what they are really passionate about. Then we will try to find a career for that passion. Once we have that we will see what kind/level of formal education is needed to pursue that career. If you need a degree for that, well, work for that degree. Here in Germany most jobs are based on apprenticeship, so that is a very viable option. And part of that apprenticeship will b…
Because doing so will force you to degrade your passionate goals to mere everyday tasks, and that'll ultimately ruin your passion.
Re: Ask HN: What would you recommend a 16 year old to pursue career wise?
#64I tell my kids (18(f) and 15(m)) to find out what they are really passionate about. Then we will try to find a career for that passion. Once we have that we will see what kind/level of formal education is needed to pursue that career. If you need a degree for that, well, work for that degree. Here in Germany most jobs are based on apprenticeship, so that is a very viable option. And part of that apprenticeship will b…
I'd argue that you shouldn't turn a passion into your bread-winner. Because doing so will force you to degrade your passionate goals to mere everyday tasks, and that'll ultimately ruin your passion.
I loved writing code, but discovered exactly the point you are making; I hated doing what work wanted me to do with that passion. It did not fit, so I stopped writing code professionally and I'm much happier doing it on my own terms in my own time.
However, the idea that you should find things to do that you find some satisfaction in is maybe better advice. I now work in information security (I know, not everyone's cup of tea). It's challenging, there's always something new to learn, and it's occasionally exciting.
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#65Re: Ask HN: What would you recommend a 16 year old to pursue career wise?
#66When and why would knowledge ever become meaningless?
Re: Ask HN: What would you recommend a 16 year old to pursue career wise?
#67Re: Ask HN: What would you recommend a 16 year old to pursue career wise?
#68Yes. It is your life. It isn't about what is out there. It's about what's in you. My kids are 19, 17, 12. I tell them- you're not going to college to get an education that is about knowledge out in the world. You are going to get an education about you. To learn about your person- your body, your brain, your own mental model of your self and other selves and the world. Your person is still in physical growth mode unt…
You can do the same thing while on the job. Presumably, you could even learn faster, as you will be in a real-life environment, with real responsiblities, real people, real constraints etc. Whereas college is basically a bizarre form of retirement - a 4 year long "retirement" young people take before starting working. Yes, they learn some things there as well, but most of that knowledge is not needed and is just an excuse to spend time in college (for students) and to charge hefty fees (for universities).
Historically, US colleges were finishing schools for the wealthy - and now, most of us are wealthy enough to spend 4 years like this [1]. Unfortunately, since so many people finish college, a college degree is now a requirement for many fairly basic jobs - which means that not going to college closes many doors for people.
[1] Tragically, many people can only afford it through crippling student debt, which they take because they can't see the big picture at 19 yo. We don't allow 19 year old people to drink beer because they're too young to handle it, but we allow them to take on hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt... European (where I am from) solution is to just fully cover college from taxes. This way, we probably have even higher college attendance than in the US (i.e. even more wasted time and money in total), but at least the amenities are very basic and there's no parasitic admin overhead - so, I'm guessing we spend much less on higher ed per capita.
Re: Ask HN: What would you recommend a 16 year old to pursue career wise?
#69Option X - Surgeon/Scientist: Age 18-21: Caltech Undergrad Age 22-29: Harvard/MIT MD-PhD (8 yr dual program with Harvard MD and MIT PhD) Age 30-36: UCSF Neurosurgery Residency (#1 in US) Age 37: NYU Langone Hospital Neurosurgeon Scientist (#1 in US)
Option Y - PE/VC/Lawyer: Age 18-21: Harvard Undergrad Age 22-24: Blackstone Private Equity Analyst (3 yr program fresh new grad, skipping investment banking) Age 25-28: Stanford GSB JD/MBA (4 yr dual program JD and MBA program) Age 29: SCOTUS Fellow (straight to SCOTUS, directly skipping appellate clerkships) Age 30: Tiger Hedge Fund Manager or Sequoia Venture Capitalist or Wachtell Lawyer
Option Z - Software Engineer / AI Researcher: Age 18-21: MIT SB/MEng (4 yr program combining Master's Degree with Bachelor's) Summer after Sophomore Year: DeepMind internship Summer after Junior Year: Hudson River Trading internship Summer after graduating, before entering PhD: SpaceX internship Age 22-24: Stanford CS PhD (3 yr program for Master's holders, skipping the intro 2 years before Qualifying Exams; Google Researcher during summers) Age 25: OpenAI Research Scientist or Founder CEO (Unicorn/Decacorn before Age 30)
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#70Obviously harder than it looks