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Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

#62

The "I" in AI is just complete bullshit and I can't understand why so many people are in a awe of a bit of software that chains words to another based on some statistical model. The sad truth is that ChatGPT is about as good an AI as ELIZA was in 1966, it's just better (granted: much better) at hiding its total lack of actual human understanding. It's nothing more than an expensive parlor trick, IMHO. Github CoPilot?…

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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, eventually either the governments will survive, or crypto will. Governments (as nation states) exist longer than crypto, but they have their share of problems as of lately.

Are you seriously trying to imply that Bitcoin has a greater chance of survival than the concept of a nation state? Is this a real opinion you're holding in your head?

The concept of a nation state exists for around 300 years, and currently in a crisis. Crypto exists for 15 years (also currently in a crisis, to be fair). I think both governments and crypto will survive somehow, but not in their current forms. There might be distributed states, corporate states, fiat states, confederations etc; the “nation” aspect of the nation-state will not survive too long in my opinion (i.e. some people who are alive now will see the end of nation-states). Crypto will be transformed too, perhaps becoming more utilitarian and less reliant on competitive adversarial selection.

This is all speculative, of course, but I have seen the fall of the Soviet system, and I am well aware that forms of government are not eternal.

tl;dr but yes. Crypto of the future will look more or less similar to the crypto of today. Governments of the future will look nothing like today’s nation-states.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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Its part of overall "tech hype fatigue", think of all the waves upon waves, big data, social apps, crypto/web3, self-driving cars, virtual reality, AI etc,

At the same time people's actual quality of life or economic standing is going nowhere, there is fragility that bursts in the open with every stress, politics has become toxic and the environment gets degraded irreversibly.

Yet people simply refuse to see and they keep chasing unicorns.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

#65
In the early 2000s people were also annoyed about all the internet hype. "DotCom this and DotCom that" and it was stupid that a company could announce they were adding a DotCom to their name and the stock would go up a bunch. So yes, it is annoying that all these crypto scammers and entrepreneurs have put a wrapper around GTP API call and hype it up.

BUT the rate of change in AI is enormous and it will be a much bigger deal than the internet over the next 10 years. Not because of API wrappers, but because the cost of many types of labor will effectively go to zero.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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I'm not at all tired of AI, but I am tired of all the sales/marketing/business people taking our AI, misunderstanding it, pretending it does all sorts of things that it absolutely does not do and then also not being willing to being educated about how things _really_ work under the hood.

It's the same kind of people that were hyping cryptocurrencies in the past. People who understand nothing about the technology, but shout the loudest about how amazing it is (probably to make money off of it). Those are also the kind of people that will be the cause of the next AI winter.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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post #42

I think this time is the good one. ChatGPT has reached a level where we finally can think of building actually useful products on top of "AI". Note that nobody is pretending that ChatGPT is "true" intelligence (whatever that means), but i believe the excitement comes from seeing something that could have real application (and so, yes, everybody is going to pretend to have incorporated "AI" in their product for the ne…

I really don't understand how engineers are having good experiences with it; a lot of the stuff I've seen it output w.r.t. swe is only correct if you're very generous with your interpretation of it (re: dangerous if you use it as anything more than a casual glance at the tech). W.r.t. anything else it outputs, it's either so generic that I could do it better, outright wrong (e.g. cannot handle something as simple as tic tac toe), or functions as an unreliable source (in cases where I simply don't have the background).

I wish I could derive as much utility as everyone else that's praising it. I mean, it's great fun but it doesn't wow me in the slightest when it comes to augmenting anything beyond my pleasure.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“AI” isn’t bull shit, it’s correctly labeled. It’s intelligence which is artificial: i.e. fake, ersatz, specious, not genuine… It’s our fault for not just reading the label. (I absolutely agree with your post and your viewpoint, just to be clear!)

"Artificial" is not synonymous with "fake". "Fake" implies a level of deception.

Superficial Intelligence may hit the mark there.
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