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Ask HN: Moving to DC in 2023?

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Re: Ask HN: Moving to DC in 2023?

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One mistake almost everybody in tech makes when they move to DC from somewhere else in the country is that they move to DC proper. DC, despite being a fairly walkable city with a decent subway by US standards and a lot of diverse food choices, is not where action outside of government or government related is. Nearly all of the tech scene is outside of the city in two areas. Either in the stretch of MD north of DC an…

DC is a region of various "downtowns" connected by the metro / beltway. Tysons Corner, Bethesda, Silver Spring, Rosslyn, Alexandria, are all their own business centers with their own neighborhoods, themselves walkable. Each looks like a medium-sized US city downtown. Each has its own anchoring agencies / businesses that define the economy of the area.

This. DC does transit-oriented development, where the areas around metro stations are densely zoned, quite well.

Re: Ask HN: Moving to DC in 2023?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another counterpoint to this: I live in the Capitol Hill neighborhood of DC and work (remotely) in tech. I would highly recommend—as have others here—that if you enjoy a nice walkable city, you should try living in DC proper, too, and if you _have to_ commute to one of those bland suburbs where the big HQs and startups are located, you'll be well positioned to reverse commute if you're near a Metro station in DC. I m…

The suburbs are not bland, DC is. The idea that DC is a richer experience than Alexandria or Manassas or Frederick or Fredericksburg is absurd. These are places with centuries of character, not the transient facade you find in DC.

Those were not recommended upthread.

Re: Ask HN: Moving to DC in 2023?

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post #30

I wouldn’t do it. I grew up in northern Virginia and work in DC and lived there for a time. DC was nice 10-15 years ago when it offered some of the amenities of a big city at a much lower price point. Today there’s not much to recommend. It’s almost New York prices now but the restaurant and entertainment scene is a shadow of those places. Your apartment building will probably be full of political staffers and lawyer…

If workers are not coming back to DC, prices should ease.

Re: Ask HN: Moving to DC in 2023?

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I lived in DC, just south of Logan Circle for the past 5 years, before moving out to Falls Church. I lived in Arlington for 2 years before that, and have plenty of friends in Alexandria and other parts of DC and NoVA, so I feel like I have a pretty good sense of things.

I've been all over, and I really do think DC is an underrated city. The food in DC is definitely competitive with New York, LA, and Chicago, the quantity is just not quite the same. There are a ton of little pockets in DC, all with different vibes, and there's actually pretty solid access to green space in Virginia, if you have a car. Rock Creek Park is a nice little oasis for greenery too.

My favorite thing about DC was that it still has the energy, diversity, food, and other amenities that big cities offer, but the streets are bigger, it feels more open and less oppressive than New York, and it feels a bit more clean.

My least favorite things about DC were being smack dab in the middle of January 6th and other riots. I lived right on Mass Ave, and many protests basically walk down Mass Ave towards the National Mall. So being woken up to helicopters and flashbangs was getting a little old when there were a string of nationwide protests. By the end of my time in DC, I also noticed crime seemingly getting worse. The biker/ATV gangs from Baltimore run rampant every now and then, and it can definitely put a bad taste in your mouth. I also had a few close encounters with drivebys or shootings (just south of Shaw) which honestly put me on edge and made me want to not live there. However, most of the crime is very very localized and you're unlikely to wander into a bad part of town if you're in pretty much any area of central and North West DC.

I think other people's criticisms of bros in Arlington, and political staffers, lawyers, etc. are fairly true. But there's also a very very diverse culture here, full of African American history, and lots of international influence in the cuisine. El Salvadorian, Ethiopian, lots of Vietnamese, Korean, and other Asian cultures. It's really a huge melting pot and that's awesome.

I can't speak to the tech scene, unfortunately. I work for a Government Contractor. The bar is very low, and you can get a pretty good base salary there, but you said you didn't want a clearance, and I don't blame you. The work is typically mind numbing and feels meaningless. I do know there are a handful of startups and small tech companies operating in and around DC and Arlington though. And a few of the big tech companies have satellites for the access to gov.

I setup a home here in NoVA for the foreseeable future, mostly because of family proximity, but I also just really enjoy DC and Virginia as places to live. Wineries, breweries, and a lot of good hiking is all within an hour. A ton of good food, and international cuisines are all within 30 minutes. Good nightlife, bars, live music, theater, and the rest of the Urban amenities are also all present.

Again, I think it's a very underrated city, but I haven't lived anywhere else for any significant period of time, just visited a lot of cities in Europe and the States.

Edit: One other thing: access to Dulles and Reagan is pretty convenient and fly to a lot of places!

Re: Ask HN: Moving to DC in 2023?

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post #38

I've lived in the area my entire life, and DC proper for around the past 7 years. I love living here and am without question biased but I'll do my best to give you some objective advice. - As others have said, it's a very transient city. A lot of people live here for 5 years then move. Most of my friends/family live here so this isn't an issue for me but take this into consideration. - There is definitely a tech pres…

Used to go from Logan Circle to Reston and it was god awful. 1h15m some days.

> Certain parts are pretty dangerous.

It always felt pretty compartmentalized to me, but it's also where a lot of the cool shit and "culture" is. Shaw, H St. corridor, Columbia Heights and Petworth. Even Navy Yard, as broey as it is, has a lot of amenities but always feels a bit sketch.

Re: Ask HN: Moving to DC in 2023?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another counterpoint to this: I live in the Capitol Hill neighborhood of DC and work (remotely) in tech. I would highly recommend—as have others here—that if you enjoy a nice walkable city, you should try living in DC proper, too, and if you _have to_ commute to one of those bland suburbs where the big HQs and startups are located, you'll be well positioned to reverse commute if you're near a Metro station in DC. I m…

The suburbs are not bland, DC is. The idea that DC is a richer experience than Alexandria or Manassas or Frederick or Fredericksburg is absurd. These are places with centuries of character, not the transient facade you find in DC.

Sorry, I was referring to the previous commenter's list of suburbs, like Pentagon City, Clarendon, Rosslyn, Tysons, Reston, Herndon, etc. in that corridor out to Dulles.

(Downtown) Alexandria is lovely. Manassas and Fredericksburg (VA), and Frederick (MD), are very distinct from DC and the DMV suburbs, though—to me they feel much more like separate cities/towns in Virginia and Maryland (with all that Civil War history you're referring to).

Re: Ask HN: Moving to DC in 2023?

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There are plenty of dense, walkable "towns" within the DC metro area. Some (like DuPont circle) are in DC proper, while others are in VA or MD. There is no shortage of suburban sprawl surrounding DC, but the dense areas tend to be cheaper, well-connected to transport, and have a decent nightlife and character in their own right.

Before making a decision, take a look at Frederick, MD; Old Town in Alexandria, VA; Clarendon, Ballston, and Rosslyn in Arlington, VA; city of Falls Church, VA; and Reston, VA.

Baltimore is also within commuting distance

Re: Ask HN: Moving to DC in 2023?

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post #67
post #38

I've lived in the area my entire life, and DC proper for around the past 7 years. I love living here and am without question biased but I'll do my best to give you some objective advice. - As others have said, it's a very transient city. A lot of people live here for 5 years then move. Most of my friends/family live here so this isn't an issue for me but take this into consideration. - There is definitely a tech pres…

Used to go from Logan Circle to Reston and it was god awful. 1h15m some days. > Certain parts are pretty dangerous. It always felt pretty compartmentalized to me, but it's also where a lot of the cool shit and "culture" is. Shaw, H St. corridor, Columbia Heights and Petworth. Even Navy Yard, as broey as it is, has a lot of amenities but always feels a bit sketch.

Oh definitely agree on both parts. And yeah that's what I meant by the last point. I couldn't care less about politics or the federal government, the outer neighborhoods are where the "real" DC is at in my opinion.
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