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Ask HN: Self-hosting in 2023: Nextcloud on Linode, or...?

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Re: Ask HN: Self-hosting in 2023: Nextcloud on Linode, or...?

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Your approach is nice and easy and sensible. I personally preferred hetzner to linode (which has a history of bad security) but I imagine the minimum price is higher. When you’re ready to reduce prices and increase privacy, take a look at a tiny (like t3a.micro or .nano) ec2 instance that forwards to/from your “real” server at home which can be beefier. The home server maintains a vpn connection to the ec2 instance.…

Is there some reading about setting this sort of thing up that you could direct me towards? I am ignorant but competent (I even had a CCNA at one point) and not afraid of manuals, and this setup actually sounds ideal for me - I have a ton of disk space and compute power at home. If not for Starlink I might even just try running it from home anyways.

The only thing I don't have from your scenario is a public IP due to being on Starlink as I said, so there's no way for me to let anyone in my front door here even if I was willing to endure the pain, which I don't think I am. Is there a way to have my server always be the initiator of the VPN connection, and the bouncing server just say "sorry" if the home server isn't responding?

I am tempted to bring up the question of having a CDN cache (or whatever the terminology is) for those occasions, but that sounds like money, in the final analysis the straightforward setup might still be my best bet for now.

But yah, the idea of just having a small public bouncer that forwards stuff and doing everything from my home servers has occurred to me before, I just don't know yet how to set that up and I get nervous with anything public, it's a scary world out there.

Doing it the "dumb" way just gets me onboard and I can start looking at all the little parts, it's how I learn stuff really... like I said, very interested in doing some more reading on exactly how one would implement that, as detailed as possible because I am very stupid when I'm first setting out on something, I need the text equivalent of someone talking real slow like I'm five. :>

Re: Ask HN: Self-hosting in 2023: Nextcloud on Linode, or...?

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Don't expect too much from Nextcloud – it will not be a 1:1 replacement for commercial services from Google, Microsoft, etc. Prepare to spend much time debugging, configuring, reading tickets, etc. If you only want files and Cloud office, consider using alternatives like Seafile[1] or the new OwnCloud rewrite in Go called OCIS[2], which are MUCH more stable than Nextcloud. [1]: https://www.seafile.com/en/home/ [2]: h…

How is SeaFile these days? I really want something close to Dropbox, but my own drives.

Syncthing is a flawless Dropbox replacement in my experience. There's a big caveat that you need something like a NAS or your home server always online with it though as it's peer to peer sync only.

Re: Ask HN: Self-hosting in 2023: Nextcloud on Linode, or...?

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Just get the oracle free tier. I've read my share of FUD about how bad oracle cloud supposedly is, but went ahead anyway. It's been something like 3 years, no complaints (including ~1.5 years of running their 4-core ARM/24 GiB RAM/200 GB HDD machine). https://www.oracle.com/cloud/free/#always-free I've used many other free tiers over the years (living in a low-income region you pretty much have to), and they make it…

whenever I tried using it, no instances were available, so I just gave up.

Re: Ask HN: Self-hosting in 2023: Nextcloud on Linode, or...?

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Buy a Minisforum UM350. Install Linux on it. Set up Tailscale on it and all devices you want to have access to its internal services. Set up Nextcloud on it. There you go, $300 one-time cost, and you have a very powerful private server that can run all your self-hosted stuff. Via Tailscale, it can even expose some services to the public internet, if you feel the desire to do so.

Thank you for this, this is exactly what I was looking for! It looks pretty effin' awesome :)

Re: Ask HN: Self-hosting in 2023: Nextcloud on Linode, or...?

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I really like Scaleway: https://www.scaleway.com/en/ . Similar offer and simplicity as DigitalOcean, but way lower prices. I had to reach support a few months ago, and they were pretty responsive. They also show the prices per month , not per hour/milisecond/byte/whatever. As I'm also the one paying the invoices, I really like that.

I can't figure out the prices per month thing, if I select GP Compute and 'Monthly' it just says "Sorry, no results…" Their pricing page is really confusing to navigate and figure out what's what.

I agree with it being very confusing. If you select Monthly it seems to just remove the products with pricing per ms or per hour.

Re: Ask HN: Self-hosting in 2023: Nextcloud on Linode, or...?

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OVH for me. I rent a bare metal server ($80/mo) for development and a use an OVH VM for my personal site. Their DDoS mitigation seems legit.

(Anecdotal evidence) While I've been happy with OVH over the last year, literally last night they suspended my servers because they weren't able to charge my card. No warning that they would charge it, no pre-authorization, no grace period to rectify the problem, just shut down the servers at 2AM in the night. Not happy to say the least.

Curious, how long have you been running your service with them? A few months?.. years?
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