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Utopia: “free” money for everybody. In the form of a Basic Income. Dystopia: controls on how we spend our money. No matter if we earned it ourselves or were gifted the money. No buying or selling without it being whitelisted. Maybe in the form of CBDC’s? Utopia: no more spamming because no one can me anonymous. Dystopia: every service, platform and protocol will need KYC options.

Do you really think the concept of money itself is compatible with a utopia, even "free"?

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post #15

What I see happening soon: The mainstreaming of a new religion. Its tenets are broadly: the worship of technology and "progress", the cyborgization of the population, the proliferation of AI on all spheres of life, and the ultimate creation of the successor of humanity. This is not new, it's been going on for at least 200 years, but finally the technology exists to do it in a decentralized, scalable fashion. Think of…

I'll play devil's advocate here. While we see stuff like this in sci-fi a lot, it's also an extremely common opinion that the Internet and constant connectedness we have have massively exacerbated anxiety, loneliness, and depression. We've also started to see large pushback against unfettered AI progress, and this movement will absolutely grow. Simultaneously, distrust of the silicon valley technocrats is likewise ma…

My personal opinion is that humans are fundamentally a technological species, and even things like the wearing of clothes or primitive social organization could be argued to be "cybernetic augmentation". I don't know how to solve this issue. Could it be argued that humans are cyborgs just because they can learn how to drive cars and "merge" with them?

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I mean, that is basically happening already. For almost all "jobs" it isn't necessary to target a very specific individual but rather a group of similar enough people.

Even with alt-right fake news people still talk in real live and that is what really drives it. People coming together and thinking that everyone is of their opinion because of the 25 people in the same pub.

Targeting specific individuals could be simplified by AI but in the end, after even a few questions to chatGPT it becomes kind of repetitive in nature.

What I see happening soon: - A lot of creative work will be aided by AI. This will create a divide and some people/industries will fall behind because they do not adapt.

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post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe ask why people are giving you a cold shoulder and what it was you said that bothered and why them instead of writing it off as "academia is against me?" Just a thought, do with it what you will.

Academic institutions are 95 / 5 democrat to republican. I am neither an academic nor a supporter of either of those parties (I am an independent). I’m debating the pushback here that politics is dissimilar to a religion as I believe currently it is.

So you aren't actually speaking from experience then, this is an allegory for how you feel you would be treated in academia (if you were also a different person)...?

Maybe it would more helpful if we spoke about our experiences and not hypotheticals we invent? Because we're surely going to be wrong about the latter.

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the reasons I have for avoiding the straight reading of 1984 is that the protagonist jumps, eagerly, into such an entrapment. Not a sympathetic look. But if you want money for people with minds that hate All I can tell you is brother you have to wait

He jumps eagerly at the only glimmer of hope in his otherwise terrible life, I'd say.

  — You are prepared to commit murder?
  — Yes.
  — To commit acts of sabotage which may cause the death of hundreds of innocent people?
  — Yes. 
  ...
  — If, for example, it would somehow serve our interests to throw sulphuric acid in a child's face -- are you prepared to do that? 
  — Yes.
Given how loathsome Winston has revealed himself to be in this exchange, why should I trust that he's a reliable narrator about how terrible the world actually is?

He didn't do well on his A levels; didn't make the Inner Party cut; despite the Outer Party having provided a sinecure, he has a chip on his shoulder and delusions of persecution and grandeur...

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post #30

It might actually already exist, but imagine if on the other side of the internet they aggregate all of your usage information so that a tech can sit down at one console and see that "jimbo123" on Reddit is actually Bob Smith who lives on Sunnydale drive, owns a Subaru Outback, bought dogfood three times this month, and has been talking about the war a bit more this week on his other social media accounts. Anyone who…

I’m sure this exists in multiple places, not least Cheltenham, Fort Meade, Canberra and Beijing (hi guys!).

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post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Academic institutions are 95 / 5 democrat to republican. I am neither an academic nor a supporter of either of those parties (I am an independent). I’m debating the pushback here that politics is dissimilar to a religion as I believe currently it is.

So you aren't actually speaking from experience then, this is an allegory for how you feel you would be treated in academia (if you were also a different person)...? Maybe it would more helpful if we spoke about our experiences and not hypotheticals we invent? Because we're surely going to be wrong about the latter.

To claim that you can only speak and debate about lived experiences is erroneous and naïve. Otherwise HN comments would be a desert. I apparently struck a nerve with you - I suggest you pray to your political party and give your weekly tithe.

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Utopia: “free” money for everybody. In the form of a Basic Income. Dystopia: controls on how we spend our money. No matter if we earned it ourselves or were gifted the money. No buying or selling without it being whitelisted. Maybe in the form of CBDC’s? Utopia: no more spamming because no one can me anonymous. Dystopia: every service, platform and protocol will need KYC options.

I feel many utopic visions being sold are also propagated by those involved in trends that move towards dystopia. Like Microfinancing can be used to allow poor people to finally be able to make investments that were out of reach for them before. But also in practice often abused by loan sharks to bring these people in eternal debt. For UBI I wonder if it will also be a tool to keep people content and happy (frogs in boiling water) while the rise of AI in the hands of big corporations causes the bottom of the labour market to fall out for a large part of office workers.
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