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Re: Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now?

#61
The key word here is maintenance.

Most things you own you also maintain yourself. It doesn’t hold true for software. People expect software to work for some time.. On their new device, after the OS update. Bugs need to be removed, new features built.

You can and will fix your car. You will maintain it too. And you will happily pay for it. Same with the house you own. You might even renovate it, add a new level.

It is not possible to own and maintain software that way.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now?

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yep. is the problem with capitalism. if you are not growing in profits then you are dying. the happiness of the people be damned.

This exact behavior drives planned obsolescence. This has led to so much waste over past century that it's going to be very hard to go back. I was baffled that we invented a bulb that could last 100 years over a century ago and I still have to change bulbs every year or two. There are nice documentaries about this [0] The end of ownership https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOO-pYUl9-w [1] This is why we can't have nice…

Wait, the subscription economy puts planned obsolescence to an end, because keeping the product in working condition is now the service-provider's problem.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now?

#64

I actually prefer the subscription model for my software, if the monthly price is reasonable. It gives me faith that they can actually sustain their business and pay their employees to maintain and improve the service over time. I hate the other model, where with Windows and Office you end up getting useless forced upgrades and terrible makeovers because they need that upgrade revenue every few years. Or the ad drive…

You could consider https://kagi.com/ for a subscription-based, ad-free search. I've been using it for a few months and haven't had a case where the Google results were superior.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now?

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post #61

The key word here is maintenance. Most things you own you also maintain yourself. It doesn’t hold true for software. People expect software to work for some time.. On their new device, after the OS update. Bugs need to be removed, new features built. You can and will fix your car. You will maintain it too. And you will happily pay for it. Same with the house you own. You might even renovate it, add a new level. It is…

> People expect software to work for some time.. On their new device, after the OS update. Bugs need to be removed, new features built.

The software will be maintained, because the software developer needs to continue to sell the software to new customers. Hence OS compatibility will be maintained, bugs will be fixed. It's not like the developer stops working on the software immediately after you, one customer, purchases it.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now?

#68

Not really, because I saw too many software companies go out of business because not enough people wound up upgrading to the next major version -- the ownership model of software can be awfully feast-or-famine for developers' income, it's a very tough/risky business model. Generally speaking, I'm happy to pay a subscription because this way I get a steady stream of all the updates, and it's much more likely the compa…

I don't have many subscriptions (most of my software is FOSS, and I don't do media streaming), but the few I have I'm quite happy about. None of them are corporate behemoths, they create quality products that I like to use, as far as I can see from the outside they're decent companies that treat their employees well. I quite enjoy the fact that I can make a small contribution to these products/companies continuing to be sustainable.

And I'm at the extreme end of anti-capitalism. I'd prefer to see everything employee/citizen-owned. But in the world we actually live in today, I see no inherent problem with subscriptions.

There can be contingent problems. I won't, for example, subscribe to any music streaming services because they give musicians an unfair deal. But that's little to do with subscriptions per se.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now?

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post #67

There's nothing wrong with subscription based model. The problem arises when you pay for the software and you have it disabled remotely for "violating terms of service".

> The problem arises when you pay for the software and you have it disabled remotely for "violating terms of service".

This is a defining characteristic of a subscription based model, ergo there is something wrong with it.

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