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Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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If it still starts up what prevents its use as a mobile phone? If it’s dead and you’re looking to replace the iPhone mini 12 or 13 (refurbished or new 13) are great options.

Eventually your banking applications will fail to support the old (potentially insecure) version of iOS.

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 12/13 mini is 9% wider and 6% taller[0], so I don't really think it's unfair to write "marginally bigger". Also, the second picture is a bit misleading because it compares the SE to a container that itself is larger than the mini (as you can see in the third picture). [0] Numbers from Mactracker. SE is 4.87" x 2.31" = 11.2497"^2. Mini is 5.18" x 2.53" = 13.1054"^2. That's a 16.5% increase in surface area

The container is from a 6; here's the numbers from Apple: * iPhone 5: 4.87 x 2.31 x 0.30 Volume: 3.37491 * iPhone 12/13 Mini: 5.18 x 2.53 x 0.29 Volume: 3.8 * iPhone 6: 5.44 x 2.64 x 0.27 Volume: 3.877632 * iPhone 8: 5.45 x 2.65 x 0.29 I would argue that 9% is far from marginal. The increase from a 12 mini to an iPhone 6 is very minor; the increase from a 6 to 8 is marginal. From a 5 to a 6 or 12/13 mini is substanti…

I think the real argument is that the screen size has dramatically increased, making it way more uncomfortable to use compared to an SE (I had/have a 5, 6s and 13 mini so I've experienced this myself). The physical size difference of the object isn't that substantial IMO, but I understand your point of view.

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Mine sits in a drawer, battery long dead. I think there's a 5S in there too. I upgraded to the 11 despite wanting a smaller phone at the time, now the SE size is far too small to do anything, haha. I imagine it'll remain there until I move, then it'll be sold or (more likely) recycled.

You could replace the battery and/or sell them

I could possibly just need to charge it depending on if phone batteries survive without charge. Sorry by dead battery I mean it's not been charged in ages. It's not exploded or anything.

I imagine I'll only get a couple of quid out of it so it's not worth bothering unless I'm batching it with other crap to sell (e.g. during a house move)

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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I plan to switch to iPhone 13 mini, which unfortunately will be the last small form factor iPhone.

I switched when the news about there not being any iPhone 14 mini came out. The perf bump was worth it, even though I miss my SE.

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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The current 2022 SE is the same size and form factor.

It's not the same:

> The iPhone SE shares the same physical design and dimensions as iPhone 5S

> iPhone SE (2022) shares the same physical sizes and dimensions as the iPhone 8

The former is 4", while the latter is 4.7" (display size)

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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It is still unclear if support is being dropped. Apple promised updates to iOS14 after 15 was released, but went back on that promise. iOS 15.7 fixed a bunch of security issues and was released along with iOS 16.

Apple has been silently maintaining iOS12, releasing 12.5.6 in August 2022 for eg:

> Available for: iPhone 5s, iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus, iPad Air, iPad mini 2, iPad mini 3, and iPod touch (6th generation).

None of these devices are expected to be in support, as per Apple's policies. However, Apple is still pushing updates to these, and I'm hoping something similar would happen for iOS15.

I just wish Apple would actually write down its supported device+OS combinations somewhere, instead of us all having to guess (https://endoflife.date/iphone)

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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I've been using one since 2016. The recent two years have been a bit tough because of the degraded battery. Swapped a new battery earlier this year, it was good for a while and now it's slow again and barely last a whole day. The last straw was the music player/spotify stuttering while I'm using Safari. I have made up my mind that I won't buy another iPhone due to their design choices in the past years (mainly, remov…

Funny while reading your text I wanted to write you about the Zenfone 9 and then you just mention it. I'm a heavy Apple / iPhone user so probably won't switch. But the specs and especially the backpack mount triggered my interest.

How happy are you with it? Especially the camera?

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The container is from a 6; here's the numbers from Apple: * iPhone 5: 4.87 x 2.31 x 0.30 Volume: 3.37491 * iPhone 12/13 Mini: 5.18 x 2.53 x 0.29 Volume: 3.8 * iPhone 6: 5.44 x 2.64 x 0.27 Volume: 3.877632 * iPhone 8: 5.45 x 2.65 x 0.29 I would argue that 9% is far from marginal. The increase from a 12 mini to an iPhone 6 is very minor; the increase from a 6 to 8 is marginal. From a 5 to a 6 or 12/13 mini is substanti…

I think the real argument is that the screen size has dramatically increased, making it way more uncomfortable to use compared to an SE (I had/have a 5, 6s and 13 mini so I've experienced this myself). The physical size difference of the object isn't that substantial IMO, but I understand your point of view.

Yeah I have to agree here. The first gen SE size was good for me to use for one handed control which was very useful where the device acts as a remote control for a few devices in my home. The screen for the 2nd gen SE is an inch taller and half an inch wider which makes it impractical for me due to RSI. I imagine the screen size for the iphone mini is much bigger than even the new iphone SE so the only choice is to use my iphone se home remote until every app stops working.

The fact is the iphone mini wasn't popular despite some demand for a small phone, phones are heavier due to the evolving chip architectures plus the necessity to stretch every millimetre of screen size. Likewise for laptops (Like many I would pay over the odds for a modern Thinkpad that felt just like a x220) but in reverse, laptops get lighter and thinner with worse keyboards whilst phones get bigger and heavier.

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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I've been using one since 2016. The recent two years have been a bit tough because of the degraded battery. Swapped a new battery earlier this year, it was good for a while and now it's slow again and barely last a whole day. The last straw was the music player/spotify stuttering while I'm using Safari. I have made up my mind that I won't buy another iPhone due to their design choices in the past years (mainly, remov…

Funny while reading your text I wanted to write you about the Zenfone 9 and then you just mention it. I'm a heavy Apple / iPhone user so probably won't switch. But the specs and especially the backpack mount triggered my interest. How happy are you with it? Especially the camera?

I'd say pretty happy. Do I think it's the perfect phone? Probably not. But I'm pretty sure it's the closest one I can get in 2022 for my desired features.

Regarding the camera, I have to say that I don't really know. Moving up from 1st gen SE camera, I don't really have an reasonable point of reference. All I can say is that, it's definitely better than the SE (duh), but not like mind-blowingly better. Well I'm not really into shooting photos so ymmv.

Re: Ask HN: Apple dropping support for iPhone SE. What to do now?

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Die-hard SE fan, moved to iPhone 12 mini. Really happy. It's a bit larger, but it's a good change as it's actually more comfortable. Ymmv, of course.

If you are happy with the 12 mini, I think that disqualifies you as a die-hard SE fan.
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