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Re: Ask HN: Hacker Finances? / How much do you save each month?

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Here's my system:

As a background, I have no debt right now but I did also use this system when I did. I use my credit card for everything I can (to earn points) and pay it off every month. I have several savings accounts with ING Direct that I use for various large regular or upcoming expenses, plus an emergency account.

I have a hard time budgeting so rather than keep track of all my purchases, I just keep track of my accounts. I built a simple app (but you could probably use Mint.com or a spreadsheet) that displays the balance of each account. Accounts include: savings accounts, credit card, and retirement account. When I had a student loan that was listed here too. I rent but if I had a mortgage I would include the amount owing as a loan account and the estimated equity in the home as a "capital" account. All of these balances are totalled up and I can see my overall net worth (it's rough). When looking at this view, my goal is ultimately to raise the overall interest earned across all accounts.

I also have a spreadsheet which acts as a checklist for my savings goals. A prioritized list of goals runs down the side and each column is a month. Every month I try to check off each goal. They are prioritized like so: * Credit Card (balance = zero at least once) * Chequing Acct. (Min. balance = $x) * Taxes (x% of revenue set aside) * Retirement ($x set aside) * Vacation ($x set aside) * Downpayment ($x set aside until I reach $x) * New Car ($x set aside until I reach $x)

I have an emergency account, but if I didn't it would be near the top of this list, probably just before retirement.

Any large, non-necessary, one-time purchase is considered months in advance and added to the bottom of this checklist. Only when I've enough money saved will I purchase it. Them's the breaks.

This checklist is easier than a regular budget. As long as my goals are realistic and I'm completing them, I have nothing else to worry about. If I regularly have trouble completing goals I can adjust the goals and/or my spending. I check in with these two documents about once a week.

In terms of specific advice for your situation I would say... focus on eliminating your credit card debt before all other savings or debts. When that's done, make minimum payments on your student loan and build up a decent emergency fund. And only when that's done, split your payments between student loan, retirement savings, and other savings.

Re: Ask HN: Hacker Finances? / How much do you save each month?

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Still. $1000 to live with the parents? In the LA area you can get a place with a roommate between $450 - $700 a month, without all the issues or social stigma of living with the parents. It'd be one thing if you were getting a sweet deal ($300-$400 a month, everything included) but paying 1k just to live with the parents seems counter-intuitive.

I'm Asian. What social stigma? I could probably pay less by living elsewhere, but $1000 that stays within the family > $500 to some landlord with whom I have no connection. Also, I'd miss out on Mom & Dad's awesome cooking.

True. And why not help your parents out with rent payment, while feeling independent at the same time. kudos (I hate that word, but didn't know what else to say)

Re: Ask HN: Hacker Finances? / How much do you save each month?

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I made a throwaway, because I don't want friends to know the details of my finances. Your categories (after tax): A. Rent - 10% B. Debt service - No loans, no pending CC debt. C. Discretionary - 30% D. Net (savings) - 60% How do we do it? Well, we make a lot of money (me, $225k, she, $100k, this before tax), so that's one thing. We have no kids. We travel a bit but not a ton because I am something of a homebody. We d…

$325K * .30 = $97 500 for Discretionary? It seems a lot seeing u don't have anything pressing.

Re: Ask HN: Hacker Finances? / How much do you save each month?

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Well, there's debt and there's debt. Right now my wife and I have three major debts: mortgage (4%), student loans (4.5%), HELOC (1.75%) -- and those rates are all effectively lower because the interest is tax deductable. When you're talking those kinds of interest rates, I don't think it's unreasonable at all to put money into retirement accounts (especially if those too are tax advantaged and/or if your employer mat…

Actually paying down the mortgage would be sensible. It is a guaranteed return risk-free investment. Mortgage rates are expensive when compared to comparative near risk-free investment; Treasure notes, CD, money market are in sub-1% range. Comparing mortgage paydown (risk-free) to stock (higher risk) are not a fair comparison.

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Re: Ask HN: Hacker Finances? / How much do you save each month?

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I made a throwaway, because I don't want friends to know the details of my finances. Your categories (after tax): A. Rent - 10% B. Debt service - No loans, no pending CC debt. C. Discretionary - 30% D. Net (savings) - 60% How do we do it? Well, we make a lot of money (me, $225k, she, $100k, this before tax), so that's one thing. We have no kids. We travel a bit but not a ton because I am something of a homebody. We d…

$325K * .30 = $97 500 for Discretionary? It seems a lot seeing u don't have anything pressing.

It's more like $225k after tax, which gives about $60k discretionary.

Re: Ask HN: Hacker Finances? / How much do you save each month?

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Generally I've told my kids that if they are carrying a credit card balance across months they living beyond their means. That being said, we've talking about finances and while my wife was much better at these things than I was in school, if you have a couple of thousand dollars in your 'emergency cash' fund (that is so you don't suddenly need to carry a credit card balance) and you don't carry said balances except…

Good point about taking in lunch. When I worked in an office, I always did it, day in, day out. I usually made a bit extra for dinner the night before and made a lunch out of that. Not only is it frugal, it's usually better for you. Especially if you drink water for lunch instead of hitting up the vending machine. The other big one is takeaway coffee ala Starbucks or similar. Yes, it's nice, but the work-supplied cof…

Replying late. This is also one of the best ways to ensure that you are eating better food. In my experience, it is much easier to cook a dinner with good food than to buy one. If I have leftovers of good food, I can turn one decision to eat better into two the next day.
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