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Re: Ask HN: How do you plan to archive all your digital content?

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> ...Each is in a small faraday bag... Now that is a great idea! I do something similar to you with the exception of using faraday bags. Thanks for sharing!

I don’t know that it would shield from another Carrington event but figure it can’t hurt. Am assuming I will have more important problems in the event of rapid dispersal of nuclear radiation.

I'm sure you are right, but it's an easy extra step. Thanks again for the idea!

Re: Ask HN: How do you plan to archive all your digital content?

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You can check out the data hoarder subreddit, which often has good suggestions. My current setup is Ryzen on an AsRock motherboard (let's me use Unbuffered ECC RAM), and you use LSI HBA cards (see art of server on EBAY) which gives you more SATA ports. Still in the range of $500-$1000 (no HDD) depending on how you spec it out, but far more powerful and expandable for anything even close to that price range. If you ar…

Would you mind posting your AsRock hardware? I was considering AsRock x300 mini desktop, but it supports only 2.5” HDDs. I am looking for two 3.5” HDDs, one NVMe and ECC RAM, low power CPU, around $600 or so.

I am using the B550 Steel Legend (6 full speed SATA ports, which is perfect for raidz2 in ZFS), a Ryzen 5800x (you can't use the g variants with Unbuffered ECC), and my RAM is Kingston ECC Unbuffered DDR4 3200 Model KSM32ES8/16ME.

You will need a dedicated graphics card, thankfully they are going down in price, if you are going to run Plex/any kind of transcoding, I recommend looking up "NVENC Encoder Matrix" and finding a card that support h265 and B-Frames (Turing or later).

Biggest cost is easily the CPU, a 5600x will run you $190. You could try a 3600 for $150 but I have not tested that with the ECC RAM, which is completely undocumented what kind of support is there it seems.

You probably want the 5600x anyways, I was able to overclock the ECC RAM up to 3866MHz and set my infinity fabric FCLK to 1933MHz (the 3600 can't reach that really at all). It's only like 5% more performance though.

Might need to look at used parts (Mobo, CPU, GPU) to get it for $600, but I haven't looked up prices and tallied it up.

Re: Ask HN: How do you plan to archive all your digital content?

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Would you mind posting your AsRock hardware? I was considering AsRock x300 mini desktop, but it supports only 2.5” HDDs. I am looking for two 3.5” HDDs, one NVMe and ECC RAM, low power CPU, around $600 or so.

I am using the B550 Steel Legend (6 full speed SATA ports, which is perfect for raidz2 in ZFS), a Ryzen 5800x (you can't use the g variants with Unbuffered ECC), and my RAM is Kingston ECC Unbuffered DDR4 3200 Model KSM32ES8/16ME. You will need a dedicated graphics card, thankfully they are going down in price, if you are going to run Plex/any kind of transcoding, I recommend looking up "NVENC Encoder Matrix" and fin…

Also as a side note, you can't run anything headless (on consumer motherboards), it needs a GPU to post.

Re: Ask HN: How do you plan to archive all your digital content?

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But, are all those computers in the same location? Just one fire away from losing everything? I have all my photos and videos on local storage, but it is all mirrored to a secure cloud storage service that costs hardly anything. I’ve pulled the backups from that cloud service (you can’t access the files directly) to make sure it works properly.

> a secure cloud storage service that costs hardly anything Which is...?

Crashplan

I’ve also heard good things about Backblaze.

Re: Ask HN: How do you plan to archive all your digital content?

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But, are all those computers in the same location? Just one fire away from losing everything? I have all my photos and videos on local storage, but it is all mirrored to a secure cloud storage service that costs hardly anything. I’ve pulled the backups from that cloud service (you can’t access the files directly) to make sure it works properly.

I'm really curious to learn which cloud service that you use which "costs hardly anything". Would you kindly share?

Crashplan.

I’ve also heard good things about Backblaze.

Re: Ask HN: How do you plan to archive all your digital content?

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Just be aware that SSDs are not stable long-term stores - they need to be periodically powered up or they will eventually lose data.

Am hoping that monthly/quarterly use is enough but that’s a good point to research.

From my own experience that's fine - I mentioned it more as a general note for anyone thinking of using SSDs for archival. I know someone who left a computer unplugged for a couple of years who lost all their data; I myself have successfully stored SSDs for a year or so without issue.

Anyway as you say, worth doing your own research.

Re: Ask HN: How do you plan to archive all your digital content?

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I have media going back 50 years. A common theme is all of it becomes unreadable after a while - not because the media degrades, but because you can't get a device that can read them (or it becomes very expensive to obtain such a device). Punch cards, paper tape, magtapes, 8" floppies, 5.25" floppies, PC hard drives, cartridge tapes, DECtapes, zip discs, hard drives, etc. The easiest by far solution is to simply copy…

I would assume that outboard CD/DVD drives (USB, maybe others) will be available for a long time to come. 3.5 inch USB floppy drives are still routine. 5.25 inch, try the used market. Who knows what happens in 10 years? That's for recovery. I wouldn't use floppies as a primary medium these days. CD/DVD might be on OK choice.

5.25 drives were once so ubiquitous, I am astonished how difficult it is to read a floppy these days. First, you have to find a drive - ancient used ones only. Then, you have to find an interface to it, because nobody makes them for modern computers, and BIOS support has been dropped over a decade ago.

CDs only hold 800Mb of information. When you can get a 64G usb stick for $6, who is going to burn CDs anymore?

Re: Ask HN: How do you plan to archive all your digital content?

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I'm really curious to learn which cloud service that you use which "costs hardly anything". Would you kindly share?

Crashplan. I’ve also heard good things about Backblaze.

Thanks for sharing! I don't know why i thought crashplan went out of business (i guess i must be thinking of another provider). Now, looking at their pricing, its really great! Thanks again!

Re: Ask HN: How do you plan to archive all your digital content?

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A bigger question is indexing that content. I would pay good money for a software suite that would let me scan all my old family photos and attach both text and audio. I'd love to sit down with my mother and one-by-one go through them and let her record the story behind them. I don't understand why such a format doesn't exist.

Put them in your PowerPoint alternative of choice and record narration?

That doesn't let you organize them by topic or by the names of people present in the photos, though. If I wanted to find "every picture with grandma in it" I'd be SOL.
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