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Ask HN: Are you going to quit?
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Re: Ask HN: Are you going to quit?
#62China is falling into recession. Europe is falling into recession. A Federal Reserve governor(Kashkari) is now expressing doubt that inflation can be reined in without triggering a recession. Stonks have recovered from the initial drop, but that is a familiar pattern in many previous stock bubbles before the market really plummets. Think really hard about switching jobs now. If you do, have liquid reserves to fall ba…
> China is falling into recession. Europe is falling into recession. A Federal Reserve governor(Kashkari) is now expressing doubt that inflation can be reined in without triggering a recession. Stonks have recovered from the initial drop, but that is a familiar pattern in many previous stock bubbles before the market really plummets. You (nor anyone else) can forecast neither recessions nor 'stock bubbles'. Otherwise…
That theory doesn’t apply as strongly to recessions as it does financial markets.
Recessions just aren’t well defined, and you’re not going to know for sure if you’re in one/were in one until months or even years after it started because you need to collect a whole lot of data on the economy. But you do start getting early signs. It doesn’t have to come all at once in a huge market crash. That is actually pretty rare. It’s totally possible for an economy to slowly wither and then falter.
Both China and Europe are in trouble. Europe’s energy shock could be painful, but it has the potential to be short lived. China’s property market looks like a real mess, and could have huge political consequences that extend beyond its borders.
Re: Ask HN: Are you going to quit?
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
I like commuting, I like smalltalk, I like dropping by people's desk to ask a quick question, and I don't mind it when people do the same to me. I like getting to know people, I like going out for lunch with coworkers, I like building relationships with people. I like knowing the identity of those I work with beyond a Slack pfp. I can understand the not getting sick part, but I guess I never really suffered from cold…
Why can't you just be you, together with other extroverts, and stop trying to convince others to come to the office? As people are discussing if they should quit over having to come to the office, you can also think about quitting because you don't have an office to go to?
Why quit? There are no companies or startups hiring my occupation for in-office-only. There are no job boards that curate in-office-only hiring postings. I could quit and go WFH for another company but that doesn't solve the problem.
Re: Ask HN: Are you going to quit?
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
I know this isn’t quite what you’re meaning, but it sounds like you’re saying “don’t quit so they can fire you instead.”
If you're in a country with any kind of decent labour rights, getting let go is 100% better than quitting. If you quit you don't get EI, you don't get any kind of payoff from the company, and it looks worse than "I was let go due to company downsizing" when interviewing.
I'm in France which is quite decent for labor rights, but the only time I have been let go, I had to wait 6 months before getting any money because a bunch of judges and lawyers had to fight to decide who would get money and how much.
It's good in theory, but in practice you can't count on that money, and you must find another job ASAP to feed your family.
I found a better job and I will quit because it's way faster for me to get out of my current company's mess.
Re: Ask HN: Are you going to quit?
#65>>So... those of you working at companies demadning a return-to-office... are you going to quit?
As with most situations of this nature, it's infinitely easier to make this decision if you already have a decently competitive job offer in-hand.
Re: Ask HN: Are you going to quit?
#66A primary factor in choosing my latest job was having an office to go into. I’ve been going in M-F and love working in person again. I don’t think forcing everyone back is necessarily the right strategy, but instead encouraging teams to re-form around people with similar preferences.
I haven’t been going into the office M-F but I’m up to a couple days a week and it’s been good to recalibrate to what a full day in the office feels like. The morning ritual of preparation. The commute creating bookends to the workday. Going out to lunch or grabbing drinks after work with colleagues. Maybe I’m the only one, but I really let myself go during part of the pandemic and by going back to the office it feels like I’m coming out of it in some way. I may go back to the office full time for a while just to know I’m making the decision to work remotely for the right reason and not because I ended up that way 2 years ago.
Re: Ask HN: Are you going to quit?
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why can't you just be you, together with other extroverts, and stop trying to convince others to come to the office? As people are discussing if they should quit over having to come to the office, you can also think about quitting because you don't have an office to go to?
Why quit? There are no companies or startups hiring my occupation for in-office-only. There are no job boards that curate in-office-only hiring postings. I could quit and go WFH for another company but that doesn't solve the problem.
> There are no companies or startups hiring my occupation for in-office-only.
There are many companies which have offices you and people with similar preferences as yours can go to. Do you mean you want your colleagues also having to come to the office even if they don't want to?
Re: Ask HN: Are you going to quit?
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why quit? There are no companies or startups hiring my occupation for in-office-only. There are no job boards that curate in-office-only hiring postings. I could quit and go WFH for another company but that doesn't solve the problem.
> There are no companies or startups hiring my occupation for in-office-only. There are many companies which have offices you and people with similar preferences as yours can go to. Do you mean you want your colleagues also having to come to the office even if they don't want to?
What I miss isn't the office building. It's the people. I don't really care to sit in an empty office.
I don't want to "force" you to do anything. I would like to find a workplace where I can thrive.
Re: Ask HN: Are you going to quit?
#69yep, would do and do
Re: Ask HN: Are you going to quit?
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
Everything about working in an office sucks. Commuting sucks, paying for parking sucks, shared kitchens suck, open floor plans suck, office politics suck, being at the whim of people "just dropping by your desk to ask a quick question" sucks. Getting sick all the time when people don't stay home and they spread it around the office sucks. No seriously, I haven't had a cold or flu since the pandemic started, I love no…
I like commuting, I like smalltalk, I like dropping by people's desk to ask a quick question, and I don't mind it when people do the same to me. I like getting to know people, I like going out for lunch with coworkers, I like building relationships with people. I like knowing the identity of those I work with beyond a Slack pfp. I can understand the not getting sick part, but I guess I never really suffered from cold…
> The worst part is that anyone who wants WFH can have it, but I cannot have what I need.
This really makes it sound like you think other people should be forced back to offices so that you can get what you "need"
Office work shouldn't be your substitute for a social life.