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Ask HN: How can I stop my inbox/wishlist/bookmarks/tabs/todos from growing?

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Re: Ask HN: How can I stop my inbox/wishlist/bookmarks/tabs/todos from growing?

#61
If you’re up for a left-field idea… give yourself a 6 month free pass to keep doing exactly what you’re doing (so in your case that sounds like buying that extra storage!) but start collecting data on what you consume.

Don’t do anything manually, you’ll probably find it hard to track everything that way - but a script to parse your browse history (usually a sqlite file in your profile - and depending on browser you may be able to see sync’d history from other devices), your watch history in your video storage/streaming services, your # views of photos etc etc

See if you can enrich your metrics collection with the inevitable global variables of life (time of day you consumed something, what was the weather like, was that a work day, check the hours of sleep & exercise you had from your phone or wherever…)

Best case: you get to know yourself a little better.

I’ve done this twice now, first time was a complete waste of time. I learned nothing of value. Second time lead to me ditching a ton of podcasts, renewing my audible subscription but changing the types of books i get, it was also the turning point for coming off facebook for me, there were a bunch of really high value outcomes that second time.

Re: Ask HN: How can I stop my inbox/wishlist/bookmarks/tabs/todos from growing?

#62
post #10

For the TODO list, I can share one frame of mind that I use. I have a "now", "soon", and "later" section in my TODO list. "Now" grows and shrinks, but never gets out of control. Things sometimes move from "now" to "soon" or "later." I am constantly working off of this list. The "soon" section varies. Often, things get pulled into "now", when they become time sensitive. Some things stick around long enough and it beco…

I have two piles: "Time to do something about", and "Time has done something about". Amazing how many things kind of fade out in time.

Re: Ask HN: How can I stop my inbox/wishlist/bookmarks/tabs/todos from growing?

#66

I declared Instapaper bankruptcy last month when I moved to Pocket. I used to add about 10 links a day to Instapaper thinking that one day I would come around to reading them all. Lol, never going to happen. I moved to Pocket because my Kobo Elipsa has integration with it. But because of this, my filter to adding to Pocket is now "Will I read this link on my Elipsa". If not, why add to it in the first place. So after…

Fortunately for you, you'll discover soon enough that Pocket is utterly useless for accessing/reading the contents you've saved. It's Mozilla's Giant Cloud Recycle Bin.

Re: Ask HN: How can I stop my inbox/wishlist/bookmarks/tabs/todos from growing?

#67
1. Actively maintain lists when you use them. When you want to watch a movie and look back at your to-watch list, delete stuff! A lot of times you'll put something on a list because it struck you a certain way in the moment, but it doesn't really deserve its place. Be ruthless.

2. To-do lists come in two forms: a vital, nonnegotiable, long-lived list and ephemeral lists that serve you for a day or a week. Vital items: renew car registration, send wedding invites, find a primary care physician. Items for an ephemeral list: wash the car, schedule a meeting with Bob, try that new show somebody mentioned. Throw away the ephemeral list after its time has expired. Non-essential items can only be put on an ephemeral list, never the long-term list.

3. Don't treat stuff as precious if you discovered it by a simple web search. If you think "I should watch more French movies to maintain the French I learned in school" and Google "best French films of the 21st century," don't add any bookmarks or list entries for what you find. You can always do the search again. (No, you did not accomplish anything of lasting value by reading through the search results and picking the ones that appealed to you.)

4. Don't save things expecting them to change your behavior tomorrow. Don't think, "I keep thinking I should learn French. Maybe if I put some things on my to-do list...." Every day, the you that exists that day will make the decisions. Next Tuesday's you may or may not be smarter than today's you, but odds are that next Tuesday's you is not very interested in what today's you wants them to do. Only bequeath to them information they'll actually value and use.

5. Use a service like Pocket to bookmark articles. I use Pocket, and it's great because I only see it if I go to it, and it gives me no indicator of how many articles I've saved. I can scroll back if I want to, I can search in my articles if I want to, I can tag them... but I don't have to do any of that.

6. Make Inbox Zero a regular hygiene task. Getting to Inbox Zero every day is pretty hard-core. Getting to Inbox Zero every month is not so bad.

7. Unsubscribe from everything. You will find so much stuff by seeking it out that you'll have no time to consume it all. Why, on top of that, would you add things coming to you passively?

8. Declare bankruptcy on non-essentials. Do go back and check for things you really should take care of, like tax paperwork and out-of-the-blue emails from friends you haven't seen in ten years.

Re: Ask HN: How can I stop my inbox/wishlist/bookmarks/tabs/todos from growing?

#68
The problem isn't with the amount of stuff you have, but the place - mentally and physically - you're putting it in. Organization starts by finding the dividing lines that let you deal with the things you are ready to deal with, which could mean boundaries of place(different workspaces), boundaries of time (scheduling), or boundaries of quality(sorting and filtering mechanisms).

And place actually ranks higher than you might first think: doing different things with different machines in different locations allows you "set and setting": you were inclined to work in a certain way, therefore you keep ending up in that place. From that you can engage with the particular philosophy of what your aims are with that tool or task. If you try to integrate it all together there's no point of release. Information is only the data that you find useful, and sometimes that means getting distance from it.

Time and filtering, in contrast, are more narrow ways of looking at it: that you will spend some number of hours doing "the thing" is only applicable to some kinds of labor, since many times what you actually need is a once a day check-in, an opportunity to start. And filters establish topical specialization; they help you push your investigation further, but they can be an effort to enforce, as the world defaults to chaotic interconnectivity.

Re: Ask HN: How can I stop my inbox/wishlist/bookmarks/tabs/todos from growing?

#69
post #27

There is nothing wrong with having many items. Tech is designed to scale. If your productivity apps can't keep up with your behavior, then it's time for an upgrade.

I would tend to agree, but two things still bother me: 1. My saved items live in 100+ different silos. If they all lived in one place, say some kind of self-hosted personal data store, I probably would be less concerned. I've started to consolidate as much as I could into a handful of ecosystems (e.g., Pocket -> Keep, Dropbox -> Drive, Airtable -> Sheets, Todoist -> Tasks, RSS -> Gmail digest, Zoom -> Meet) and it se…

Then find a single unified storage option (I'd look at either your own solution using flatfiles or a database such as sqlite, or something along the lines of NextCloud), have redudant copies of that), and as you migrate data to it, close the origin accounts*.

1,000 individual services is at least 900 too many. Probably 990 too many.

Re: Ask HN: How can I stop my inbox/wishlist/bookmarks/tabs/todos from growing?

#70
I think the fundamental cause of the problem is actually the existence of other people: they tell new stories, perform new studies, and provide new opportunities, all of which result in a seemingly un-ending flood of tasks. My recommendation--if this is really bothering you--is thereby to limit your exposure to other people by whatever means necessary and then begin spending any resources you can spare on a campaign to prevent the spread of new people.
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