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Ask HN: Please review my site "Smoke Signal"

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Re: Ask HN: Please review my site "Smoke Signal"

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post #36

The design of the site is very, very good. Within a couple of seconds I knew EXACTLY what this does. Not usually the case with a lot of startups out there. That text under the logo is very good. Having said that, unfortunately I'll join others in saying I won't use this. I'm one of hte "searchers" - my inbox is always full, but I search for right emails, instead of filing into folders and deleting.

It's true that you know exactly what the service does, zavulon... but evidently that's only half the battle. You know what it does... but you don't know WHY you need it. Nobody knows that. Because it's not written on the page; it's implied. (Never good when your brand and solution are new!)

A part of the problem here comes down not to the service you're providing, mtgentry, but what you're saying or not saying about it. So my feedback is about your customer-facing copy.

Although I love the clarity of the headline, I'd recommend you consider fleshing the headline out to address a key benefit or the single biggest point of value, possibly in a nicely sized subhead. Something like:

"Broadcast Your Inbox Health

When your team or family sees you're swamped, they'll only send you critical stuff."

A few other thoughts:

1. "Broadcast" is a scary word. It's clear and noticeable, but it's scary. Reconsider?

2. What's the pain you're eliminating? It's not making it so people are "less likely to email you", as you put it. We still need communication. It's just that, when we're busy, we don't want the emails we don't need. The pain you're eliminating is unnecessary emails. It seems obvious to me, but it's nowhere on the page. (Of course, I may be totally wrong!)

3. You write about what senders/recipients can see (i.e., "It allows anyone you email to see the size of your inbox"), but you don't write about what people can't see. That's important. The details that stay hidden from others - like subject lines and sender names - are even more important, in the sensitive world of personal and business comm, than what's shown to them. Tell potential customers exactly how private their inbox will remain.

4. People don't want others to know how jam-packed or empty their inboxes are because that says something about them. (Others have noted this already.) Assuming your product addresses this issue elegantly, you'll want to message this on your home page or in easy-to-read FAQs.

5. An 'ideal for' line would greatly help. People need to identify. Help them.

6. Why is Smoke Signal better than an auto-responder? Why is it better than IM statuses? Why is it more efficient or effective than the solutions the HN community is throwing out? A testimonial from a customer that covers off these sorts of things could do some serious heavy lifting here.

Sorry if that's going too far. It seems to me that there are a lot of great objections and anxieties rising to the surface in this thread. You can totally address them easily on the page.

Re: Ask HN: Please review my site "Smoke Signal"

#64
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've seen inboxes with THOUSANDS of unread email This is me, for years.

Maybe the solution to this is an algorithm that pings multiple data points to determine your availability.

You mean like this one?

http://www.wuphf.com/

Re: Ask HN: Please review my site "Smoke Signal"

#65
Honestly, I like this service. While I agree with everyone's sentiments as to it addressing a problem but not fixing it, I believe it's a great alternative. There's not a "one size fits all" solution to email overload, and this allows a user another channel to express their availability.

I would only suggest allowing a user to set their own alert levels for each category-- my emails constantly go upwards of 100, 200, 300 unread at a time, but I still consider that manageable. Allow it to be customized and you have an interesting project that has some great potential.

Re: Ask HN: Please review my site "Smoke Signal"

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post #57

I'm curious. Out of the total amount of people you surveyed before building this, what percentage raised their hands and said they would use it?

We're counting hands now on HN. It's very much a MVP.

What does MVP mean in this context?

Re: Ask HN: Please review my site "Smoke Signal"

#68

Another take on the same problem is to send an automatic reply saying Your email has been received. There are %N emails in my Inbox before yours. Your email is important to me. The estimated wait time for the response is %M days. Thank you for your patience. :)

If I ever were to get an email from anyone saying that, I guarantee I would never email them again. So incredibly annoying.

Well then, it may have served its purpose!

Seriously though, there's maybe a dozen ultra-important people in the world for whom I could tolerate a reply like that. But anyone that important really should have their secretary sorting through their email anyway.

A reply like that from someone of lower (or even equal) status would be incredibly rude.

Re: Ask HN: Please review my site "Smoke Signal"

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post #57

I'm curious. Out of the total amount of people you surveyed before building this, what percentage raised their hands and said they would use it?

We're counting hands now on HN. It's very much a MVP.

So you built it and then surveyed?

Re: Ask HN: Please review my site "Smoke Signal"

#70
post #7

I appreciate a good hack, but just can't get past the idea that this is a solution in search of a problem. 2 Reasons I would never consider using this: 1. I don't want anyone to have any idea "how busy I am". Maybe I'm old fashioned, but the size of my inbox, like many other things, is no one's business but mine. 2. This effectively makes the sender the gatekeeper for deciding what's important. I want to be my own ga…

I know lots of people who could get a ton of use out of this. VC's, local startup facilitators, generally people who are probably getting a ton of emails from people who they don't know. I think this could be really useful for these people. Hell, even middle managers at large corps who are buried in mail.

Basically, if you're not getting a ton of email, you don't need this.

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