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Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

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Post by ttyp3 »

CabSauce wrote: post #58
sithadmin wrote: post #29

FWIW, a lot of US employers report your current employment status, role and salary to databases like Equifax's 'The Work Number' - and nearly any organization that subscribes can view this data. HR departments DO look at this info and occasionally spot-check it to catch moonlighting employees. You can request your own data here: https://employees.theworknumber.com/

To provide a little more info. It is possible to request a freeze on your info, but of course they make it annoying. They appear to be sourcing the data from payroll management systems like ADP. Your organization might not even be aware that they're sharing and selling your paycheck information.

I especially distrust companies using outsourced payroll and benefits startups for this reason.

Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

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Post by nscalf »

saagarjha wrote: post #41
gdfgjhs wrote: post #40

I am so confused with comments in this threads. Since when did tech employees became so submissive and scared? As far as I know, having 2 jobs is not illegal, not unethical. Many, sadly, low income families have to work two or more jobs. We in tech make enough but what if you are bored and need more challenges. My current second job is family but I know multiple single engineers (or in one case, with grown up kids) w…

Working a side job is typically not allowed for most full-time employees, at least not without permission.

Does that stipulation that they write into the contract have teeth though? A lot of companies put a lot of stuff into contracts, it doesn't make it enforcable.

Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

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Post by b20000 »

a while ago i juggled 2 contracting gigs. they each paid X per hour which is a quarter to half of what you need as a full time self employed person in CA. employees in companies hiring contractors do not understand the math of self employment and thus expect unrealisticly low hourly rates. so we end up with this situation. i found that the max hourly rate for software development in general is about double of western europe. however, the cost of living there is a quarter of what it is in CA. TL;DR companies in CA in general are unaware of the enormous cost of living in CA partly driven by FAANGs. so anyone not working in FAANG ends up juggling multiple jobs. sort of like baristas but not yet as bad.

Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

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Post by throwaway1995v2 »

I do but one of them does know, basically I got a job offer, but my previous(and current employer) really needed me since they have a legacy backend written in a relative niche language and I was the only one left to maintain it while they migrate it to python, so they offer me to switch from full time to part-time with the same salary. so half of the day with my old employer and the rest with the new one.

I'm only doing it to pay for my house faster and when I finish with that by the end of the year I will quit, so far It had worked pretty well(minus some super long days).

Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

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Post by ttyp3 »

froaway4job wrote: post #59
ttyp3 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TC or GTFO. (Am I doing that right?)

Currently at 1.8m ish total comp: - 1.2m cash - 300k RSUs (probably worthless or I leave before 4 year vesting cliff) - 200k equity (only one job is at a publicly traded company) -

More power to you, man. I find 0..1 of these startups provides enough daily aggravation. (Though that could argue for throwing a pile together and ending it quickly.)

Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

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Post by SauciestGNU »

gdfgjhs wrote: post #47
saagarjha wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Working a side job is typically not allowed for most full-time employees, at least not without permission.

My current Fortune 500 tech company's contract explicitly said that if I moonlight, I cannot work for their competitors. And if I get a second job or contract work, I should discuss it with my manager or HR. It does't say anywhere that I cannot have second job at all. I know 2 SWE in the company who actually discussed this with their managers and got okay in writing for their consulting businesses. EDIT: Really curio…

I moonlighted for a while, and I checked my primary job's employment agreement first. All it said is that I can't be simultaneously engaged by competitors. No requirement to inform my manager or the company. Lots of people in my company have side businesses (some rebuild and sell laboratory instrumentation, others contract, etc).

I was surprised when I discovered the permissive nature of my company, but I've never seen it be a problem for anybody.

Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

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Post by ghaff »

SauciestGNU wrote: post #66
gdfgjhs wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My current Fortune 500 tech company's contract explicitly said that if I moonlight, I cannot work for their competitors. And if I get a second job or contract work, I should discuss it with my manager or HR. It does't say anywhere that I cannot have second job at all. I know 2 SWE in the company who actually discussed this with their managers and got okay in writing for their consulting businesses. EDIT: Really curio…

I moonlighted for a while, and I checked my primary job's employment agreement first. All it said is that I can't be simultaneously engaged by competitors. No requirement to inform my manager or the company. Lots of people in my company have side businesses (some rebuild and sell laboratory instrumentation, others contract, etc). I was surprised when I discovered the permissive nature of my company, but I've never se…

There's probably something in the business rules about conflict of interest and how strictly that's defined/interpreted with respect to side gigs will probably depend on the employer. I doubt many explicitly say you can't have a second full-time job similar to what you do here because, well, that's obvious isn't it?

At the same time, so long as you get your work done, most companies aren't going to object to your (mostly) nights and weekends hobby business or getting a degree (assuming you've worked out the details with your management).

Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

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Post by randomhodler84 »

froaway4job wrote: post #59
ttyp3 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TC or GTFO. (Am I doing that right?)

Currently at 1.8m ish total comp: - 1.2m cash - 300k RSUs (probably worthless or I leave before 4 year vesting cliff) - 200k equity (only one job is at a publicly traded company) -

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Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

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Post by BizarroLand »

filoleg wrote: post #42
gdfgjhs wrote: post #40

I am so confused with comments in this threads. Since when did tech employees became so submissive and scared? As far as I know, having 2 jobs is not illegal, not unethical. Many, sadly, low income families have to work two or more jobs. We in tech make enough but what if you are bored and need more challenges. My current second job is family but I know multiple single engineers (or in one case, with grown up kids) w…

Having 2 jobs isn't inherently illegal. But pretty much every single full-time employment contract for an SWE that I've seen, stipulated that I am not allowed to have any other full-time job for the period of my employment.

For SWE or other programming/code related positions I can see that making sense. You may only write 30 minutes of code in a day but the other 7.5 hours is spent either cogitating over the problem and creating the environment that allows you to solve the problem or participating in your team to make sure everyone is on the same page.

You split that 8 hours between 2 companies and unless you are significantly under-employed at both jobs (2X in both locations or more) you're not going to be able to give your all.

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