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Notion
It's nice but it's slow. Would love to have a solution that combined Notion's capabilities with Sublime Text's speed and maybe JetBrains's ability to work with keyboard shortcuts.
Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?
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Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?
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There are a few cults :D - Notion Nation - Roam Legion - Zettelkasten Zealots - Bear Bros PS. Add more ;)
Also the: - Evernote Evangelists - Orgmode Promotion Society - Plaintext Patriots - Joplin Javelins - Obsidian Organisation etc etc etc
Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?
#63Maybe this is just me getting old, but I feel like Evernote has only gotten worse since I started using it over 10 years ago. Back then it was just a list of notes with some formatting and sync capabilities - perfect. These days they have added all these extra features which I don't need, and which have made the whole app slow and terribly clunky. When I use the iPad app it takes several seconds to load notes or sear…
Notion
Currently it is sadly the best set of features within one tool for me (at least the subset I use). I would love to switch to an open source variant to self host. But till then I will probably stay with it.
Still. I don't like the slowness (web and app). I don't like how it feels just off sometimes. And how the Android app just so-so works for me.
Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?
#64Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?
#65You can read about this era in detail here: https://nira.com/evernote-history/
As we come towards the third quarter of the 2010s, Evernote was being shaped up a bit in terms of non-core products being dropped, on-prem infrastructure being migrated to the cloud and so on but this wasn't without great pains as well.
Not to mention, a non-trivial number of staff appear to have left during that period too which creates a negative feedback loop where the upper tier of potential candidates may be dismissive of an employer like Evernote (if it looks questionable on your CV) which is arguably the type of talent you might need in a period like this where your competitors have true realtime collaborative elements that the market is expecting from you as well as table stakes.
Now after this period, and this is just from my own observations so I don't have any particular stories to link, Ian Small tool over as CEO with a personal focus on continuing to modernise Evernote.
Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4I5cq2DfrSpehLO_71NC...
I can't say how that has been received but I have a lot of respect for the "Behind the Scenes" series that occurred, showing Evernote's technical investments such as:
* Sharding their databases
* Standardising feature sets across mobile. Android might have had features for years that aren't on iOS and vice versa
* Standardising their applications hence the move to Electron. In the context of them needing to move faster, it makes sense to focus on one codebase instead of five, regardless of how you might feel about Electron itself.
While I don't know that Evernote can ever catch up, I have to say I have a lot of kudos for the risk that Ian took in showing us what they're struggling with.
That said, I don't use Evernote so I can't exactly say I feel the pain of their customer base but as far as content that might attract new talent, I think transparency like that is pretty much the gold standard next to having a technical blog and so on.
Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?
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#67I have used Evernote practically since it's inception and had a similar doc loss to @cconcepts where I wrote a long piece on a plane which was synced with another user. It just disappeared and was a big loss as it was due the following day. I badgered Evernote support with my ZDNet blogger hat on but never got a satisfactory answer or the doc back. It's a terrific product but I no longer trust it for anything importa…
No disrespect but surely this was a hail Mary and not immediately expected to actually work out.
Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?
#68I have used Evernote practically since it's inception and had a similar doc loss to @cconcepts where I wrote a long piece on a plane which was synced with another user. It just disappeared and was a big loss as it was due the following day. I badgered Evernote support with my ZDNet blogger hat on but never got a satisfactory answer or the doc back. It's a terrific product but I no longer trust it for anything importa…
> my ZDNet blogger hat on No disrespect but surely this was a hail Mary and not immediately expected to actually work out.
Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?
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It's nice but it's slow. Would love to have a solution that combined Notion's capabilities with Sublime Text's speed and maybe JetBrains's ability to work with keyboard shortcuts.
You might take a look at Obsidian. For me it’s the best of two (or how many you like) worlds. You can sync your files via git or a cloud service of your liking. What bugs me is that it’s not open source but what makes it great is a lot of open source developers contributing plugins and themes.
Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?
#70My entire information management pipeline has been overhauled: I know Notion can be a little culty, but it genuinely has improved my performance so drastically I think it is the best thing to happen to me since the internet itself.