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Re: Ask HN: Do you have to use LinkedIn to get hired?

#61

I've never used LinkedIn; I find such business models unethical (essentially: selling access to information that is provided free-of-charge by users). Their subsequent spamming of phone contacts, and aquisition by Microsoft has reenforced this opinion. I've never had a problem getting a development job, for the past 11 years. I'm in the UK.

I'll second this.

LinkedIn was toxic when it started..... sending spam to your email contacts saying you had invited them to join. How the fuck they gained any respectability after this is beyond me.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/oct/07/linkedin-...

Re: Ask HN: Do you have to use LinkedIn to get hired?

#62
You do not need LinkedIn. I closed my account there early last year, and have never regretted it or feel that I miss out on anything. Instead, needless distraction has been removed. I was on LinkedIn for 12 years, and never once got a consulting gig from it; rather, those all came from colleagues, Craigslist, and DICE. I looked for new opportunities this past autumn, and found _plenty_ without LinkedIn.

YMMV, and for me a key factor is that LI is heavily slanted to full-time employment. For consultants, its value proposition isn't so great.

Good luck!

Re: Ask HN: Do you have to use LinkedIn to get hired?

#65
I am a midlevel frontend developer. I had to look for a job one time per year for the last 3 years.

3 years ago I tried everything. I applied to (literally) hundreds of position. More than 100 on LinkedIn, which led to nothing (50% ghosted, 50% automated rejection). Applied to a few from HN (“Who is hiring”), a couple of interviews, no offer. A fez dozens on AngelList, a few interviews, one offer, got hired.

2 years ago I mostly gave up on LinkedIn. Still applied to a couple of dozens there, same result of 50% ghosted 50% automated rejection. Applied to a few dozens on AngelList, a few interviews, no offers. This time, on HN, I applied to all positions that I could be a match (for two “Who is hiring” threads). A few interviews, got hired by one of those.

Last year I ditched LinkedIn completely for applications. I did not apply for a single job there (but kept my profile updated and I could see that my profile was visited by people from the companies I was applying). Applied to all of HN positions of December’s thread, several interviews, two offers. Applied to about 20 positions on AngelList, a few interviews, one offer, which I ended up accepting.

So LinkedIn is a complete waste of my time when applying to jobs there, but I believe keeping a profile there helps a little (although probably a good enough resume file could do the job).

Some caveats, with more experience my application-to-interview-to-offer ratio improved a lot, except on LinkedIn. There a couple of reasons for this I think. Big companies use LinkedIn more. Big companies have more silly (imo) requirements, having a CS degree (I don’t) or the recruiter recognizing where I studied (I went to college in Brazil).

Also, this last time I was back living in Brazil, so I wanted companies that hire globally remote and that’s mostly small companies that don’t use LinkedIn for hiring.

Re: Ask HN: Do you have to use LinkedIn to get hired?

#66

You can probably find a local job on LinkedIn but nothing decent remote. I found my best remote job due to an announcement right here on HN. My 2nd best (and longest running) due to some open source involvement. LinkedIn has been terrible in finding jobs. I actually tried to apply to a Google job being suggested to me and was shocked to see that I am being take to another portal to fill-in my data. I would have assum…

This isn't true at all. We hire remote folks sourced from LinkedIn all the time. In fact, it's one of the best ways to find global remote candidates as most folks refer people they know, which are mostly local or centered around some economic area.

I guess LinkedIn delivers for you.

Since I work entirely remote my (previous) team is already distributed.

But LinkedIn itself has basically little support for this scenario. I noticed that although my previous startup was in SV they started promoting me local jobs as soon as I marked I'm "open for work".

I had to change my location to SV to get SV jobs but then some of those had timezone requirements, etc.

Re: Ask HN: Do you have to use LinkedIn to get hired?

#67
I have never got a job through LinkedIn, even though I get loads of contacts from recruiters - as many as 10 per week. The problem is that those contacts are poor quality. They are spammy as heck, basically mass emailing anyone who has a specific search phrase anywhere in their profile.

For the last year my profile bio has opened with the statement "Recruiters: Please tell me what your favourite colour is if you want me to respond to your message." Not one recruiter has actually done that. They literally do not even look at your profile.

Re: Ask HN: Do you have to use LinkedIn to get hired?

#68
I've been lucky enough to get almost all my recent jobs off LinkedIn,

The Easy Apply is straight up revolutionary, because you don't need to wade through a 20-page job application anymore. I don't need to answer a personality quiz to apply for a job . Job .

That said, I absolutely hate the photos on LinkedIn. My physical appearance and my qualifications are two different things.

Re: Ask HN: Do you have to use LinkedIn to get hired?

#69

Former engineering manager here. LinkedIn is useful to get “sourced” for jobs. Sourcing refers to recruiters proactively searching for qualified candidates for a given job. The first place recruiters go to source for positions - especially for those that are harder to fill - is LinkedIn. So no: you absolutely don’t need to have LinkedIn to get hired if you apply directly. LinkedIn makes it easier for companies to fin…

The flip side of this is that LinkedIn can sometimes bring you lots of unwanted messages from recruiters offering worse jobs that also pay less than what you currently make

Re: Ask HN: Do you have to use LinkedIn to get hired?

#70

I have never got a job through LinkedIn, even though I get loads of contacts from recruiters - as many as 10 per week. The problem is that those contacts are poor quality. They are spammy as heck, basically mass emailing anyone who has a specific search phrase anywhere in their profile. For the last year my profile bio has opened with the statement "Recruiters: Please tell me what your favourite colour is if you want…

I love the bio bit. That's a hilarious and really nice touch.
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