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Ask HN: Is it just me, or is the inbox is the worst place for newsletters?

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Re: Ask HN: Is it just me, or is the inbox is the worst place for newsletters?

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Not at all. Any other medium would be a blog with RSS.

I set my email up to automatically snooze all newsletters to 8am the next day. Every morning I have a bundle. I read most of it, skip some, and then I'm done for the day.

The signal to noise ratio is pretty good, and more importantly its finite. I honestly can't imagine going back to scrolling newsfeeds or refreshing sites throughout the day.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me, or is the inbox is the worst place for newsletters?

#62
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How do I get notified of a new newsletter? Not OP but I use Inoreader for RSS. It has push notifications in the paid version, although I don't need them, I just open Inoreader when I'm in a newsletter-reading mood. > Tell us more about your reasoning. The reason email does not work for me is that my email inbox is overflowing with a variety of types of communication: business emails that require a quick reply, unso…

OK. (on a side note this is "Inbox bundles" solved elegantly in Google Inbox RIP) Anyway - I too have an overflowing inbox. I used to aim for Inbox zero but slipped and am living with it. One discipline I do maintain though is that the Inbox should always be actionable. It's my todo list. So - how do I handle non-actionable, non-urgent stuff? 1. If it will be urgent and actionable I snooze it. 2. If it's of interest…

Google Inbox was fantastic, I miss it. Still, not as good UX as Inoreader for reading newsletters.

Also, I find it healthy to keep things I *have* to process (email, to-do lists) separate from things that I scan for interesting stuff when I have a moment to spare (RSS, Twitter, HN, Instapaper).

> I think there's about 3 or 4 regular newsletters I tolerate.

Maybe you'd be willing to tolerate more if you kept them out of your inbox ;)

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me, or is the inbox is the worst place for newsletters?

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I'm a selfhosting nerd so I use Huginn to scrape the newsletters from my email and turn them into RSS feeds that I consume by converting them into an e-newspaper with Calibre.

I also use ttrss's feature to republish articles via an RSS feed, plus Wallabag and it's RSS, to get bundles of long form content onto my Kindle.

My Saturday morning ritual is then to open Calibre and download the last week's worth of Matt Levine newsletters to my Kindle, which I then enjoy on my porch with a coffee.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me, or is the inbox is the worst place for newsletters?

#65

I'm a selfhosting nerd so I use Huginn to scrape the newsletters from my email and turn them into RSS feeds that I consume by converting them into an e-newspaper with Calibre. I also use ttrss's feature to republish articles via an RSS feed, plus Wallabag and it's RSS, to get bundles of long form content onto my Kindle. My Saturday morning ritual is then to open Calibre and download the last week's worth of Matt Levi…

I dont know why but this reminds me of the classic HN counter argument to Dropbox.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224

Maybe there's a webapp here...

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me, or is the inbox is the worst place for newsletters?

#66

I'm a selfhosting nerd so I use Huginn to scrape the newsletters from my email and turn them into RSS feeds that I consume by converting them into an e-newspaper with Calibre. I also use ttrss's feature to republish articles via an RSS feed, plus Wallabag and it's RSS, to get bundles of long form content onto my Kindle. My Saturday morning ritual is then to open Calibre and download the last week's worth of Matt Levi…

I dont know why but this reminds me of the classic HN counter argument to Dropbox. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 Maybe there's a webapp here...

Oh 100%.

What I'm doing is not for the feint of heart. For me it's as much for the joy of the project, though I do really like the power and customizability of the stack I've put together. I'm also a privacy wonk and I like having full control over my data, not to mention the content I'm consuming.

But yeah, I won't claim this is for everyone. But for those interested in a DIY project it's working great for me!

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me, or is the inbox is the worst place for newsletters?

#67
post #52

I just stopped reading email newsletter in general. Currently sitting at 307 emails unread in the newsletters folder. I have a tab folder that I launch every morning when I drink my coffee and prep for the day. It contains HN, local news, tech news, several subreddits, and YC related stuff. I wish there was a digestible way to gather my top 20 so that I don't manually go through all that information while drinking my…

> I wish there was a digestible way to gather my top 20 so that I don't manually go through all that information while drinking my coffee in the morning.

You know, it's likely most if not all of that can be fed into an RSS reader...

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me, or is the inbox is the worst place for newsletters?

#68

I'm a selfhosting nerd so I use Huginn to scrape the newsletters from my email and turn them into RSS feeds that I consume by converting them into an e-newspaper with Calibre. I also use ttrss's feature to republish articles via an RSS feed, plus Wallabag and it's RSS, to get bundles of long form content onto my Kindle. My Saturday morning ritual is then to open Calibre and download the last week's worth of Matt Levi…

OK, but suppose someone were to scrape newsletters from their e-mail and turn them into RSS feeds, just like you do. But then, suppose they just behave like a typical RSS user and read these with a feed reader. A stereotypical RSS feed reader which implements an inbox-like paradigm, where you see feeds as folders, which show a count like (3) of new unread items.

What would be the point?

(What you're doing makes sense to you because of the additional steps that are enabled, like conversion into e-newspaper and whatnot. In principle, at least, a mail client could do the same thing, without requiring round trip out to RSS.)

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me, or is the inbox is the worst place for newsletters?

#69
post #36

I recently switched to https://www.hey.com/ for email, which provides a dedicated page for reading newsletters. I didn't like it at first, but after comparing in depth with Gmail and Superhuman I prefer the workflow. Having separate interfaces for communications, feeds, and automated emails has been great.

I use HEY for all my personal email now too. I definitely believe it's a step in the right direction.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me, or is the inbox is the worst place for newsletters?

#70
post #39

I'm on the other side of the issue. I have 10000 subscribers with a 0.6% Spam rate. That's technically high, despite me getting all emails voluntarily and not even offering a freebie for signing up. Anyway, can't use Facebook/IG/Reddit/Twitter because of the algorithm. Can't email more than 4 times a year due to spam filters. I still pay hundreds of dollars a year to reach people via email octopus and Amazon.... And…

I'm curious: how do you learn your spam rate?

I had trouble with this back then. I used a home-baked email sender, emails looked good in mail tester and several mail clients, and yet, some of my test gmail addresses got the email in the Inbox, and some of them in Spam. I have no idea what was different.
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