> Tooling is just terrible. The VSCode plugin is crap, kills the CPU unless you disable features. There is no IDE from jetbrains. There is a plugin but last time I tried it, it was even worse than the VSCode plugin.
I am using VSCode too and the experience is not as good as with Typescript/Javascript but is not that terrible either. I would compare it with Rust's experience, so far.
> Also, I've read some comments where people mention "we don't need redis", "we don't need workers" everything is so much easier. That was our thinking at first. But then you realize on deployments you will lose your cache, or your background jobs, etc. So you have to persist them either in mnesia or in the database. At that point you're just reinventing your crappy undocumented and untested version of delayed_job.
Of course you need _other_ libraries to achieve some of those things. You do not have a queue built it but there are some very good tools like Oban https://github.com/sorentwo/oban that are basically doing what Sidekiq does, just relying on the main database you are already using.
There are also very good libraries for caching that rely on ETS and that simply replaces what you could do with Redis.
> Most of what you get from elixir in terms of redundancy, high availability, etc you can have that anyway from kubernetes, heroku or any PaaS.... you will need more than 1 server anyway, so...
This is partially true. The ability of BEAM to cluster and execute processes inside the cluster, internal communication between actors and so on are not _just_ achievable with k8s, not without a good added complexity.