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Ask HN: Who doesn’t want to go back to the office?

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Re: Ask HN: Who doesn’t want to go back to the office?

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Post by TenderBlender »

paulcole wrote: post #28
pcbro141 wrote: post #17

I don't want to go back, I can get my day job done in Do your tasks in as little time as it takes leaving more room for leisure, this is the first time I'm feeling the benefits of that 'increased productivity per hour'[1] economists talk about. [1] https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/exports/labor-productivit...

> I intend to start a couple of for profit side businesses Not saying this applies to you, but a thing a lot of people are going to find out is how little they actually accomplish with the extra time. It's so much easier (and fun!) to dream about going to the gym, having a garden, and starting a business while stuck in traffic than to actually follow through and do those things.

It’s one step closer to following through at least compared to daydreaming in traffic

Re: Ask HN: Who doesn’t want to go back to the office?

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Post by dougmwne »

aliljet wrote: post #29

I may be the malcontent, but I'm tired of being at home. I want to keep the option of being at home, but I miss the community I found at work, I miss the non-work adventures our team had, and frankly, I think the new folks joining our teams are not nearly as integrated into our family as those of that came before the pandemic. I've worked remote for a decade and the option to work remote for 2ish days a week makes li…

Your coworkers are not your family, unless they are literally your family business. Most people don't learn this lesson till the first layoff and they watch those warm and friendly relationships sublimate in an instant.

Re: Ask HN: Who doesn’t want to go back to the office?

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Post by solosoyokaze »

fairity wrote: post #59

It’s human nature to exert the least effort possible to obtain resources. Over time, employees will find more ways to slack from home while looking productive. Corporations will make decisions based on what maximizes productivity. I don’t think remote work will persist to the extent people believe. There are exceptions to the first rule - when an employee is especially motivated. Even then, they’re one bad managerial…

If workers refuse to go back into the office, then the corporations will have no option but to support WFH. I for one would never again work somewhere that didn't offer 100% WFH. It would be the first thing I asked about in a hiring interview.

Re: Ask HN: Who doesn’t want to go back to the office?

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Post by dougmwne »

intergalplan wrote: post #22
germs12 wrote: post #9

I've found a new level of self worth not being told when I have to be in a seat and when I'm allowed to leave it.

Fewer restrictions and less questioning of your use of time and your activities is typical the higher one observes the class ladder. WFH (absent remote monitoring tools, which take it back down below an in-person job without such tools) is like bumping up to the upper-middle, or professional, class, which most programmers are not in , ordinarily, socially speaking. ... and yes, a taste of class privilege is, frankly,…

You nailed it. I may never have much class privlage, but I can emulate it with WFH, location flexibility and by cultivating small amounts of financial independence.

Re: Ask HN: Who doesn’t want to go back to the office?

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Post by havelhovel »

Things I have avoided over the past year: wearing uncomfortable clothes, being unable to use a restroom because it’s occupied, sweating from the heater, shivering from the AC, being held hostage by coworkers who talk at me about their personal lives and grievances, unpleasant noises, unpleasant smells, being asked trivial questions, the drama of coworkers who can’t behave professionally, ugly decor, uncomfortable seating, traffic, car troubles, parking woes, and unhealthy lunches. I realize these are small problems in the grand scheme of things, but we’ve proven we don’t need to deal with them, so I just won’t from here on out.

Re: Ask HN: Who doesn’t want to go back to the office?

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Post by bitcoinmonger »

germs12 wrote: post #9

I've found a new level of self worth not being told when I have to be in a seat and when I'm allowed to leave it.

You sound like you're the type of person who would enjoy working for yourself instead of for someone else. Have you ever considered it?

Re: Ask HN: Who doesn’t want to go back to the office?

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Post by mehlmao »

aliljet wrote: post #29

I may be the malcontent, but I'm tired of being at home. I want to keep the option of being at home, but I miss the community I found at work, I miss the non-work adventures our team had, and frankly, I think the new folks joining our teams are not nearly as integrated into our family as those of that came before the pandemic. I've worked remote for a decade and the option to work remote for 2ish days a week makes li…

I'm glad to spend less time commuting to a "family" that let go of 20% of workers last April and to spend more time with my family.

Re: Ask HN: Who doesn’t want to go back to the office?

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Post by paulcole »

TenderBlender wrote: post #61
paulcole wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I intend to start a couple of for profit side businesses Not saying this applies to you, but a thing a lot of people are going to find out is how little they actually accomplish with the extra time. It's so much easier (and fun!) to dream about going to the gym, having a garden, and starting a business while stuck in traffic than to actually follow through and do those things.

It’s one step closer to following through at least compared to daydreaming in traffic

Debateably better to daydream about success than fail and realize you couldn't do it. In the first option you can at least blame someone else.
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