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Re: Ask HN: How to relocate to Europe as a software developer

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try jobs in netherlands/amsterdam. they don't require dutch, most people here (>90%?) speak very good english. just find a job that does visa sponsorship (a lot do). good luck.

Plus you can get a knowledge migrant status which means you get first 30% of your salary tax free for a few years and various other perks (free transfer of driver's license for example)

Re: Ask HN: How to relocate to Europe as a software developer

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It's pretty easy to move to (most) European countries really. It's nothing like what you're hearing from people trying to move to the US. Most will just let you stay to work (visa/residence permit) with relatively little bureaucracy. As long as you have a job they won't bother you. There's some other requirements (qualified professional, certain income), but as a software developer you won't have any trouble. Your em…

Does this apply for Germany, Austria, or Sweden? I speak German and have some familiarity with the (German) culture and country through a decade of study and a couple of visits. Less familiar with Sweden, but I fell in love with the country after visiting and was able to pick up some minimal understanding after studying it for a few months, so I don't think getting conversational would be too difficult.

Re: Ask HN: How to relocate to Europe as a software developer

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Any advice on being a software engineer and moving to a Scandinavian country, Germany, or Austria specifically? I know German and would feel comfortable learning a Scandinavian language after studying Swedish for a while. My ideal would be to work remotely and live in the countryside, but if another situation is more realistic then that's fine too.

Re: Ask HN: How to relocate to Europe as a software developer

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post #9

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They don't and the pay is fine. Don't act like a d** and you'll be fine.

To be fair, aside from perhaps very specific domains (e.g. finance) or corporations, the pay probably looks dismal if you compare it to SV levels. Making six figures is certainly something hard to reach. Ditto on the immigrants thing though, Germany is certainly not the worst country in that regard.

There's almost no place in IT which is comparable to SV pay. It's not very useful as a benchmark if it's a complete outlier. But there's also a lot of reasons people don't want to live/work in SV - even given the massive pay.

Re: Ask HN: How to relocate to Europe as a software developer

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post #59

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> I assume the easiest method is to obtain a EU passport. I am... not sure this is true, and I'm not sure why you would think it is? Usually its much easier to obtain a work visa than a passport.

Yes it was true: https://www.euronews.com/2020/10/20/buying-eu-citizenship-wh... In particular Malta and Cyprus, evidently had low barriers. But according to the article, 19 EU countries provide some kind of residency scheme. Another site provides some interesting details: https://imperiallegal.com/european-passport/

€2M spare cash is not a low barrier. It's not the "easiest method" either. They're fun articles, but realistically very few people can afford this - and if they can, they know.

Re: Ask HN: How to relocate to Europe as a software developer

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It would be nice to narrow your search to a specific country because some EU countries are not welcoming foreigners of specific nationalities. And some others countries are saturated of foreigners (specifically from one or two countries) and there are mixins. But it changes from city to city too. So even if you get a job in EU, better to check what is your budget. You don't want to live in a neighborhood full of immi…

That was racist / xenophobic - did you really want to post this?

Re: Ask HN: How to relocate to Europe as a software developer

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It would be nice to narrow your search to a specific country because some EU countries are not welcoming foreigners of specific nationalities. And some others countries are saturated of foreigners (specifically from one or two countries) and there are mixins. But it changes from city to city too. So even if you get a job in EU, better to check what is your budget. You don't want to live in a neighborhood full of immi…

That was racist / xenophobic - did you really want to post this?

Maybe they should have phrased it better - but there are some places in Paris (an example I'm familiar with) a typical tech worker would make for an awkward situation at best and a dangerous one at worst. Especially if the tech worker doesn't present as a monogamous heterosexual.

Re: Ask HN: How to relocate to Europe as a software developer

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post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes it was true: https://www.euronews.com/2020/10/20/buying-eu-citizenship-wh... In particular Malta and Cyprus, evidently had low barriers. But according to the article, 19 EU countries provide some kind of residency scheme. Another site provides some interesting details: https://imperiallegal.com/european-passport/

€2M spare cash is not a low barrier. It's not the "easiest method" either. They're fun articles, but realistically very few people can afford this - and if they can, they know.

Yes but OP did not say "low barrier". Had they said that, then you would be correct.

Re: Ask HN: How to relocate to Europe as a software developer

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post #17

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The number of figures is pretty irrelevant when you factor in cost of living.

That is partially true. The absurd remunerations of SV engineers factor in the cost of living, for sure, but generally people can consolidate a decent amount of capital in a few years if they have a good position. Even if you have to spend $2000 for a two-bedroom flat, if you earn $150k/yr you are likely able to save more money than someone earning €50000 with a €500 flat. (I am not saying SWEs are underpaid in the E…

It's not just accommodation. Larger European cities are also usually pretty good for walking / cycling / public transport, so you often don't need a car. Cost of schools starts at $0 (details depend on a country). Basic coverage means you may not need a hospital visit emergency fund. Etc.
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