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Ask HN: Best resources for non-technical founders to understand hacker mindset?

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Re: Ask HN: Best resources for non-technical founders to understand hacker mindset?

#61
Wild guess here. Think of your problem/goal starting from the other end.

(crass generalization) non technical people tend to see the "idea" they have isolated out of the sea of possibilities as the important thing.

Now that this important idea has been identified I just need someone to stuff some "supports" under it and we are done!

top down

From the other direction, great ideas are a dime a dozen. Enormous amounts of (outwardly invisible) time have been spent exploring the landscape these "supports" would need to sit on the down to the bedrock. There may be things that are just to obvious to consider explaining why that particular idea is not worth the effort. Maybe it is boring or sub optimal or infeasible, or just dumb.

A hacker (what ever that means anymore) would be more apt to consider what they had on hand and where they were and most importantly, how they could inject some cleverness into the building of their supports, then climb up and see where they had gotten themselves.

bottom up

All obvious gross simplifications for illustration purposes.

If you are endeavouring to address a disconnect, first of all kudos to you for making the effort.

Two paths that could help are

Better illustrator of "the idea". The everyday marketing of the idea to the masses is not going to help here. You would need to demonstrate the value added that would make what ever reluctance there is be set aside.

The other is experience what is causing the reluctance; get some blisters yourself.

Re: Ask HN: Best resources for non-technical founders to understand hacker mindset?

#62
I've found the book "New Kingmakers: How Developers Conquered the World" really instructive on this point.

It focuses on the "rise of the developer," if you will, as an influential decision-making and budget-holding role within a company. It also includes lots of perspective on appealing to developers and avoiding marketing and business jargon.

As a nontechnical founder myself, it's been really helpful.

Re: Ask HN: Best resources for non-technical founders to understand hacker mindset?

#64
"Masters of Doom" is a pretty demonstrative and entertaining bit of non-fiction that walks through the early days of id Software. Though not a manual or how-to, or anything like that, I'd recommend it to a non-technical founder or manager because it does a great job evoking the thrill of creation/breakthrough that is pretty central to the "hacker mindset".

Re: Ask HN: Best resources for non-technical founders to understand hacker mindset?

#65
What are you hoping for the business focused founder to get out of this exercise?

The reason I ask is that in my experience the "hacker mindset" is a very nebulous thing. There's sort of a "hacker ideal", but in practice actual developers, white/blackhats, makers, etc. come from all sorts of backgrounds, have all sorts of ways of thinking about problems, and are motivated by all sorts of different things.

Are you hoping for the business founder to better understand how to effectively work with technical people?

Re: Ask HN: Best resources for non-technical founders to understand hacker mindset?

#69
I don’t have any suggested reading material but my rule of thumb is to just assume that anything which appears simple to build is about 10x more complex for “reasons”. The simpler a feature is to use, the longer it will take to develop. And any major change in scope/priority adds 2x to the original timeline.

If you want to understand the details behind these general statements, you’ll need to spend the next several years in the trenches delivering dozens of technical projects.

Re: Ask HN: Best resources for non-technical founders to understand hacker mindset?

#70

Let me sum up all possible books about understanding the "hacker" (terrible word by the way, because of multiple meanings, which meaning are we talking about?) mindset, to a management perspective: 1) True "hackers" value knowledge over money. 2) True "hackers" value doing things once and doing them right, no matter how long that takes. (Compare to the business mindset of "we need it now", or "we needed it yesterday"…

I’m not a hacker if I’d rather hack together something quickly, even if it’s a bit hacky? That would seem to violate your #2 rule for “true” “hackers”. Or if I like hacking my way through a problem instead of doing it the expected way? That would seem to violate #4.

And I’m not a “true” “hacker” if I want to make money?

I thought I was a hacker. But if this is what hackers are, I’m pretty ok with being voted off the island.

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