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Re: Ask HN: What is your strongest argument against remote work?

#61
So. Hear me out. I had my eyes opened a little bit last weekend. I was going through leadership substitutes theories and spatial distance from leader ( or manager ) is listed as one of the neutralizers. Naturally, it is not an argument management would openly make, but all of a sudden I understood why they were so unwilling to make remote happen. It undermines them.

edit: added openly

Re: Ask HN: What is your strongest argument against remote work?

#63

You generally miss the out of band communication, i.e. the conversations between other colleagues that you overhear, as well as the 'waterfountain' chat. Sure, these spaces can be created online, but in my experience the threshold is too high for such spontaneous things to happen.

> i.e. the conversations between other colleagues that you overhear, as well as the 'waterfountain' chat. Never underestimate the value of these conversations. Often, this simple ability to "overhear" others is EXACTLY how you avoid being left out of the loop and have some clue as to what's going on.

this is a real issue even with in office presence; not everyone is in the loop and the solution, in my opinion, is not to keep everyone in the same room but to spread information in the company

Re: Ask HN: What is your strongest argument against remote work?

#64

Online meetings seriously suck still. It's harder to form real relationships with coworkers (some would see this as a plus, but I think it depends on the company/team culture). But the biggest change is forming trust. How do we come to trust in each other and in the mission if we never interact physically? It certainly takes a different kind of leadership.

I can say by experience that being in the same building does not imply that you are building a relationship. Meetings are meetings, you still have to prepare, you still have to communicate well, you will have your turn to speak, if it does not work it is not because you are behind a webcam

Re: Ask HN: What is your strongest argument against remote work?

#65
post #3

I work from home and am a big advocate of doing so. One thing I find difficult in remote teams is the ability to ask a coworker a question quickly. There can be a fair amount of lag time over messenger and this occasionally blocks the completion of work.

> One thing I find difficult in remote teams is the ability to ask a coworker a question quickly.

Why is it so important that your colleague HAVE to respond quickly? Have you ever considered that your colleague may need some time alone to finish her own task before she can answer your super important question? (sorry for the mood of my answer but it is so bad on purpose :) )

Re: Ask HN: What is your strongest argument against remote work?

#66
Pros

- Depending on at-home situation, you may be able to focus on work more

- Time flexibility. You have the luxury of doing errands / tasks at home

Cons

- Difficult to build deeper connections with co-workers. Unless there are other processes in place, I've noticed that communication becomes increasingly work-related and less about just catching up

- Accessibility to distractions. It's easier to get distracted when you have access to TV, books, video games, etc...

- Separation of work and leisure time. Physically leaving the office used to be a forcing function to stop working. Now, it can be easy to just keep working.

- Collaboration becomes more difficult. Your coworker may have stepped away from their desk and you're kind of left hanging until they get back.

Re: Ask HN: What is your strongest argument against remote work?

#67
post #33

I know it can potentially be controversial but a lot of outside of work relationships start at the office. Some can be romantic and may even lead to marriage. Others can be friendships that last job changes. It can even be as simple as having a great group of people to chill at a bar with. While I love my wife and kids, I think most others are like me and want to periodically get out and meet new people. Work is ofte…

"The office" can be the building where you may have your desk, does it mean that the desk must be owned by the company you work for? or that everyone in the room must work for the same company to build a relation ship? :)

Re: Ask HN: What is your strongest argument against remote work?

#69
I'm stuck at home with a dog/puppy and no way to escape without having to tend to it every 2 hours. Personally I don't mind it, because I enjoy spending time with my dog, but the business might.

It breaks concentration and deep work.

By my own estimates, I'm about 40-50% as productive as I was in the office.

Re: Ask HN: What is your strongest argument against remote work?

#70

Number one is: You need to be cut out for it. You need to be self sufficient and be OK with working alone. Not many people can handle that and will want to go back to the office. I love remote work and get really stressed in an office (especially open and cubes) but I feel people like me are a minority.

Thank you for your points!

> You need to be cut out for it. You need to be self sufficient

Instead of saying "People are not cut to it" why cannot we say "People have not enough experience with it"?

Even working in a classic office space requires some experience, trial and error.

> and be OK with working alone.

well, there are co-working spaces, working hubs etc

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